100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster

Falconoffury · Expert Joined: May 25, 2004 Posts: 1471

Let me add a few more things to consider.

Air guns - They can still kill little animals, and ammo is cheap and easy to stockpile.

Archery equipment - I'm surprised nobody mentioned this one. Cheaper than guns, can kill medium sized animals, and arrows are not terribly difficult to fletch, unlike bullets are to manufacture.

Fresnel lenses - Great for starting fires or cooking with just the sun, and no fire.
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Has anybody mentioned sauces?

Soy sauce, tobasco, sweet N sour, teryaki, bbq, ketchup, mustard, etc., etc., could add a lot of "comfort" to all those beans & rice.
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pkscottx · Coal Joined: Jan 16, 2008 Posts: 2

You can move chickens higher up the list. Ok, maybe not the kind of chickens that are bred for egg or meat production in a chicken house but the old fashioned kind that can forage, brood, and have enough sense to fly into a tree when the coyotes are running through. These are now called "heritage chickens" and finding one that was hatched the old fashioned way under a mama hen is danged near immpossible! The hatcheries that will send you day old baby chicks are back ordered out passed March. Milk goats seem to be out there but getting snatched up.

(anyone out there with a good chicken source in southeast Texas feel free to post a response)

Look out for food grade plastic buckets. Out at the local walmart since before Christmas. None available from the local donut shops. A few left at tractor supply, but going fast. The only place with ANY is the local ace and a $10.00 with a lid they are just TOO expensive to be practical except as a last resort.

Anyone besides me notice that the biggest bag of pinto beans available at many grocery stores is now 2 pounds?

I live OUT so the Sams Clubs do not work for me. Good tip about the feed stores.

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I surf a lot of financial and political news (since the TV news is worth SPIT) and I find these people fascinating. They are actually trying to peek into the future (short time frames) using some kind of really sophisticated data mining of linguistic shifts on the internet, and they seem to be on to something. I coughed up enough money for a years worth of beans for the subscription data, but the free stuff alone is an eye opener.

Cloud9 · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Jul 26, 2006 Posts: 1162

I have done a bit of reloading over the years. If anyone is considering reloading in a post apocalyptic scenario, the first things they are going to run out of are primers. Powder can be manufactured in a pinch, but primers are beyond the reach of the typical backyard chemist. I have shot black powder out of lever action rifles, bolt action rifles and revolvers. All of these weapons will function with primitive powder. I would suggest that the would be survivalist would be wise to select a good thirty caliber bolt action rifle and a good revolver in the 357 to 44 magnum range. Buy a press and get dies for those two calibers. Get on the forums for these particular weapons and learn how to cast bullets out of wheel weights. It is a very simple process. Lay in a few thousand primers and a few of pounds of powder and you will be in business long after the assault rifle crowd have fired up everything they can lay their hands on.

Pops

Jenab6

The list made me realize is that I don't have a good way to sharpen my knives. I'd thought that a sharpening steel sharpens knives, until a few minutes ago. In fact, a sharpening steel only realigns the edge after use has put curves into it - it does not make the edge sharper than it was before. So I went to eBay and bought a couple of diamond surface whet stones, coarse and extra fine.

Notice how everybody thinks of dry rice, dry beans and wheat when deciding what kind of food to store away for the long term?

For water filtering, I'm going with fine mesh brass screen (about 1/4 the width of door screen) and occasionally cheese cloth. For killing the germs: mainly boiling, but sometimes bleach.

I hope to get most of my firewood for free, except for the work done in gathering it. I live in a deciduous forest: oak, maple, hickory, birch, ash... that kind of stuff. There is a man who sells it, but his price last summer was $50 per 3/8 cord pickup truck load. By counting the sections of 16" split log, I figured out that the average stick costs 20 cents.

I have four large and four small kerosene lamps, and about 30 gallons of kerosene. I have some camping stoves that can burn either gasoline or kerosene.

mmasters

Very little discussed and extremely important is maintaining good health in a crisis situation. One of the last things you want is to get badly sick and or to have a nervous breakdown as it could easily cost you your life.

To prevent this from happening take a combination of Vitamin C, Magnesium and Vitamin B complex daily (and with every meal during high stress times). Also replace refined sugars with whole grains like whole wheat or brown rice. Use natural oils like flax, olive and palm, and eat colorful vegetables.

This will do wonders to help you manage stress, stay positive and function your best. And of course it could very well save your life!

mercurygirl · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Jan 29, 2006 Posts: 1287

gwmss15

If anyone would like large quantities of raw clean salt i can purchase it for between 10 and 30 baht (USD$0.30 to USD$1) per 5kg to 10kg bags lower price for huge quantity's. This salt contains no iodine. But can be used for cooking and canning.

This salt comes from the maeklong area of central Thailand and is obtained direct from the low income salt farmers.

If your interested you will need to pay for transport of it to the US by sea is the cheapest. If a number of you can purchase together then its possiable to put it all in one 40 foot container and send it direct from maeklong to US via klong toei port in bangkok. The price of this im not sure on or even if raw salt can be imported into the USA free of taxes and import controls.

Rice of many different kinds can be obtained cheaply in this area too. not sure of excate prices as i rarely purchase it. but its under 60 baht USD$2 for 10 kg lower for huge amounts.

If people are interested please check if the US ports and customs will accept the shipments of salt and rice etc. the shipments will be ex klong toei bangkok thailand.

PM for more details on this.

BigTex

I_Like_Plants

Now why would US people want to buy salt from Thailand when we have huge salt resources? Tons of coastal area plus inland sources.

You Thais better keep your salt, it will come in handy when you get back to your old traditions of eating each other. Razz

I_Like_Plants

The collapse of the Soviet Union yadda yadda blah blah blah.... sheesh, any of you people lived in the 1970s? I knew the suitability of every kind of paper for wiping the ass, and yeah, newspapers aren't bad. Phone books are decent too, thin pages. Bibles were good but for rolling cigs not wiping your ass!

The Indians (like in India) use some water to clean up, that might be worth reading up on and trying out if water's no problem where you are. Ultimately that's a lot less resource intense than using T.P. of any type.

gwmss15

i just offered to do it because people said they local (usa salt) was not cheap so i offered some lower priced salt that is very good for preserving food.

Thai people never ate each other. Not sure where that idea came from.