SHELL: "Ban cars that do under 35mpg"

KevO · Expert Joined: May 24, 2005 Posts: 2358

I guess Americans will have to find their feet now. They are under there, honest Very Happy

Gerben

This is stupid. Gasoline is heavily taxed in Europe. These taxes enable politicians to compensate for the energy use handsomly. It's a political choice that they prefer to use the money to wage war instead. We need more 10 mpg cars and use the money to make factories more efficient or give poor guys free hybrids in exchange for their old cars.

dorlomin · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Aug 05, 2007 Posts: 1062

If you buy into the soft landing scenario then this is a great idea to try to cut your dependence on oil ahead of the early phases of the deplition curve.

It may not be a widely held belief here, but I believe that the bosses many big oil companies are begining to worry about there social license to operate. They need to prove to Europeans that they care about the enviroment and human rights. The fallout from Brent Spar and Ken Sara-wiwa and other problems heavily dented the public image of oil companies in Europe. They probibly feel that they need to be proactive on these kind of issues before the EU and other governments get involved.

WisJim

I would think that oil companies would promote energy efficiency simply because it would enable them to be in business longer.

Regarding 35mpg, that sounds like a good baseline to me. Certainly it is within reason. We have a couple of cars in our family, and they all get at least that kind of mileage, average city and hiway. And the newest one is a 2001 Chevy/Geo Metro, which we find works fine for 3 adults on short trips (100 miles or so). And 2 of the adults are 200+ pound, 6 foot+ tall males. We don't really need a vehicle outfitted like a luxury lounge.

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heroineworshipper

What would our CEO idols who we pay billions of dollars to and donate the shirts on our backs to do without their SUV's?
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veliger

I assume this wealthy “Sir” also plans to ban all private aircraft, powered pleasure boats, ATV’s, snow machines, new houses over 3000 square feet, etc. One could argue that large, comfortable vehicles at least still serve a legitimate transportation purpose, albeit an ineficient one. Almost all uses of power pleasure boats, ATV’s, snow machines and small private aircraft are purely for pleasure. Surely all of these wasteful, carbon emitting activities that serve absolutely no legitimate economic purpose should be banned long before inefficient vehicles.

Sir Mark Moody-Stewart is just another control freak who wants to limit other peoples choices, but not his own. Let see if he is willing to live in a modest house and give up his private jet. I hate extreme hypocrisy more than anything else. Live free or die!

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Starvid

Tax oil instead. A lot. We are increasing gas taxes by 50 cents a gallon next year. This with a right-wing government.

It can be done and it should be done. Every year a hike of 50 cents. Let the market work its magic. No detailed regulations.
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