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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Is America going to have a Revolution?
Ferretlover wrote:
And, who says they have not been damaged?
Who says you haven't been damaged?
Ferretlover wrote:
People act the way they do because that is the way they are expected to in their own society/culture/country/community.
Yes, and that includes you. You are part of the system just as much as joe sixpack.
Ferretlover wrote:
Since I tend to disagree with so many of your posts, I do not expect you to agree with me or consider the value of what I post.
If your opinions are so valuable, then you'll be willing to defend them. I think it gets really boring and repetitious for people to congregate solely for the purpose of validating eachother's bitter rants (kind of like Air America).
Joined: Jun 13, 2007 Posts: 3589 Location: Minniesotuh
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: Is America going to have a Revolution?
mos6507 wrote:
Ferretlover wrote:
And, who says they have not been damaged?
Who says you haven't been damaged?
Ferretlover wrote:
People act the way they do because that is the way they are expected to in their own society/culture/country/community.
Yes, and that includes you. You are part of the system just as much as joe sixpack.
Ferretlover wrote:
Since I tend to disagree with so many of your posts, I do not expect you to agree with me or consider the value of what I post.
If your opinions are so valuable, then you'll be willing to defend them. I think it gets really boring and repetitious for people to congregate solely for the purpose of validating eachother's bitter rants (kind of like Air America).
lolol Simply throwing back someone's opinions back at them hardly constitutes competent discussion.
But then, based on the material you post, I expected this sort of reply.
I am quite willing "to defend" any facts that I post by citing the source if it is not my original concept; but, I also enjoy learning ideas and contemplating new possibilities from the many posters here.
What did I post that you do not understand?
I am sorry that you are so afraid of the plausible future as evidenced by current events. Your attempts to bully posters here into changing their position are quite sad.
If this website bores you so, why do you persist in returning and posting here? _________________ "RRrrruuuunnnn!!!" ~Apocalypto
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: Is America going to have a Revolution?
RedStateGreen wrote:
I don't think the election of anyone would do it, but the perception of more vote rigging ala 2000 would definitely do it.
My thought, as well. If John McCain won and it was percieved to be suspicious, but plausible, people would protest, but they wouldn't necessarily riot. If they percieve a McCain election to be the result of voter fraud....look out.
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Is America going to have a Revolution?
mos6507 wrote:
Ferretlover wrote:
If this website bores you so, why do you persist in returning and posting here?
To make your life miserable by having to actually defend your opinions rather than just nod in mindless solidarity.
One shouldn't expect pearls of wisdom to spew from a horse's ass, Ferretlover. The more illuminated we become, the fiercer the opposition from the no-minds, the low minds, and the slow minds. Take it as a compliment.
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: Re: Is America going to have a Revolution?
Cloud9 wrote:
A riot lasts about three days. A revolution takes an ideology, some kind of belief system that offers the body politic something better than what it currently has. Anarchy is not a revolution. It’s a collapse.
Well, actually, anarchy (anarchism) IS an ideology, even older than communism. In a nutshell, Anarchism is a form of socialism based upon voluntary cooperation among self-managed workplaces (opposed to state planning) and direct democracy decision making (as opposed to party dictatorship), organizing society from the bottom up in a federalist fashion.
But you're right,of course, in order to have "anarchy", you'd have to teach people anarchism; otherwise, you'd end up having only chaos - followed by a dictator with high boots.
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Is America going to have a Revolution?
Ferretlover, if you want some ammo to support your position on how public opinion is indeed manipulated by suited men in smoky backrooms, then look no further than the Pentagon's release on Information Operations, which admits to including information dissemination to 'intentionally mislead' adversaries to 'US interests':
http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/dod/jp3_13.pdf
Quote:
continuous synchronization and coordination between Information Operations, Public Affairs (Media), Public Diplomacy and out allies is imperative
The US military takes its psyops operations against American and foreign civilian populations very seriously.
Joined: Jun 13, 2007 Posts: 3589 Location: Minniesotuh
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Is America going to have a Revolution?
I think the military takes the public very seriously...as their own special private stock of guinea pigs.
I was watching a program on the military using LSD on the public.
It was presented that in the LSD testing in the 60s, army specialists from Fort Derrick (the place where the anthrax was traced to) would put LSD in aresol form and spray it into the NY subway system to see what would happen! _________________ "RRrrruuuunnnn!!!" ~Apocalypto
Joined: May 18, 2006 Posts: 4333 Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Is America going to have a Revolution?
Ferretlover wrote:
I think the military takes the public very seriously...as their own special private stock of guinea pigs.
I was watching a program on the military using LSD on the public.
It was presented that in the LSD testing in the 60s, army specialists from Fort Derrick (the place where the anthrax was traced to) would put LSD in aresol form and spray it into the NY subway system to see what would happen!
Fighter pilots use "speed".
Ever heard of Nazi Crank.
Quote:
The drug is known by various names, including “ice”, “meth”, “tina” and “Nazi crank”. It was first developed in 1919 and used by troops to keep awake. It was rumoured that Hitler injected it twice a day, hence the name “Nazi crank”.
Joined: Jun 13, 2007 Posts: 3589 Location: Minniesotuh
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Is America going to have a Revolution?
Kaj wrote:
Ferretlover, if you want some ammo to support your position on how public opinion is indeed manipulated by suited men in smoky backrooms, then look no further than the Pentagon's release on Information Operations, which admits to including information dissemination to 'intentionally mislead' adversaries to 'US interests':
http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/dod/jp3_13.pdf
Kaj, I went to the link--it was weird! As soon as I tried to go past the second page, the whole thing started blinking, and getting smaller and smaller! _________________ "RRrrruuuunnnn!!!" ~Apocalypto
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: Is America going to have a Revolution?
Kaj, I concede the point. I was not thinking of those who have actually established rules for anarchy. I was thinking more along the lines of the general use of the word as it appears in Webster’s Thesaurus. Anarchy: Lack of political authority, disorder and confusion; the absence of any purpose or standard. What I was thinking of was chaos which is defined as total disorder.
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:52 am Post subject: Re: Is America going to have a Revolution?
Quote:
Kaj, I concede the point.
You mean JFT! (But I was thinking the same thing as him so I will accept your concession. )
Ferretlover wrote:
Kaj, I went to the link--it was weird! As soon as I tried to go past the second page, the whole thing started blinking, and getting smaller and smaller!
You see! You see how cunning their psyops operations are! They're either trying to freak you out and break your will, or they have inserted some kind of subliminal instruction in your brain to get you to stop criciticizing and consume
(Seriously, that sounds weird - maybe the the mouse scrollwheel flipped to zoom function?)
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:22 am Post subject: Re: Is America going to have a Revolution?
vision-master wrote:
Many people have been buying all kinds of weapons (guns) and crap loads of ammo. I know this from radical web forums. These people are armed, dangerous and right on the edge of snapping. I'm not kidding - scary.
Links?
I'm not doubting, just asking because I'm curious, and would like to know the situation.
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