How then, do we move backwards? How does a society, with most of the people having no clue of future events, move from being dependent on a vast and intertwined network of goods and services produced by the indigenous people of whereever, to a local resource and renewable energy based society, and do so in the timeframe available (20-30 years using the most liberal extimates, 10-20 with resonable estimates, 5-10 with worst case scenarios), all the while prices on everything increasing, world politics getting more militaristic, governments continuously reducing civil liberties, shortages of goods on the market and weather patterns resembling bad Hollywood movies?
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: No bread on the shelves
Poor Marie...always taken out of context...
The reason that she said that is because at the time, the law was that if the local bakers ran out of bread, people could purchase cake at the same price of bread..the bakers ran out of bread for a period of time, and so...she said..."Let them eat cake!"
Hmmm...maybe we should look into that law a bit more closely...is thee anything like that in modern life?
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: No bread on the shelves
mommy22 wrote:
Poor Marie...always taken out of context...
The reason that she said that is because at the time, the law was that if the local bakers ran out of bread, people could purchase cake at the same price of bread..the bakers ran out of bread for a period of time, and so...she said..."Let them eat cake!"
Hmmm...maybe we should look into that law a bit more closely...is thee anything like that in modern life?
Of course the peasants did take off her head which suggests:
A) they still had some gripe with the social system which left them with need and without hope (those who rebelled would have gotten worse than having their heads lopped off if the royals had suppressed the uprising).
B) "Poor Marie" was still out of touch with the reality of the impact of the social system on her "subjects." "So let them eat cake..." even when we understand the context, remains a condescending statement of an elite unaware of the impact of the spending of the state on its people. _________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain."
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: No bread on the shelves
midnight-gamer wrote:
Damn you ... I spit coffee all over my carpet when I read this.
Here, let me pour you another cup...
Quote:
Civet Coffee
Kopi Luwak (pronounced [kopi luwak]) or Civet coffee is coffee made
from coffee berries which have been eaten by and passed through the
digestive tract of the Asian Palm Civet (Paradoxurus hermaphroditus).
The civets eat the berries, but the beans inside pass through their
system undigested. This process takes place on the islands of
Sumatra, Java and Sulawesi in the Indonesian Archipelago, and in the
Philippines (where the product is called Kape Alamid).
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: No bread on the shelves
Speaking of archaic, I want more salt too!
Quote:
At one time soldiers in ancient Rome were paid, in part,
with a ration of salt called a solarium, from the Latin word
sal (which means salt). If a soldier's performance was not up to
standard, that soldier was said to be "not worth his salt."
Later, when salt was replaced with an actual money allowance
to buy the salt, the allowance itself was called a solarium.
Eventually, solarium came to mean the wages themselves,
and this led to our calling one's pay a salary.
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... I spit coffee all over my carpet when I read this. That was the first, and hopefully last time I will do that.
