Hoarding is exactly what the government is doing right now by filling the SPR, and frankly it's the best thing that could happen. It drives prices up. High prices encourage demand destruction. They also finance new well development. The hoarded oil gives us a buffer to fall back on once shortages become more prevalent. High prices are what we need in order to adapt to what's coming, and the sooner they happen, the better.
Joined: Jun 13, 2007 Posts: 3018 Location: Minniesotuh
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Santa Barbara or Oregon Coast ??
I've lived in CA-San Diego, Mountain View, and in WA-Whidbey Island and Seattle.
I would definitely pick Oregon over CA for post-peak if I had the chance. _________________ "RRrrruuuunnnn!!!" ~Apocalypto
Joined: Oct 16, 2004 Posts: 1347 Location: Appalachian Foothills of Virginia
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:21 am Post subject: Re: Santa Barbara or Oregon Coast ??
timmac wrote:
What about Eastern Oregon, any one ever consider this area, land is low priced, how ever does it get very cold in this area..
Eastern Oregon is drier and sunnier, though drier also leads to questions of the severe drought experienced there last year and the future water situation.
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Santa Barbara or Oregon Coast ??
dunewalker wrote:
pstarr, I admit to not being an expert on "agroeconomics". However, I am aware, as you are, that the industrial level of food production you refer to at present is possible with cheap oil energy. I suppose that with 75,000 folks turned out in the fields, barns, gardens, shores, it still would be possible. We'll see.
When the realization of PO and all it means finally penetrates into the TV-addled brains of the American people they will probably loose control of their sphincters and run to the nearest despot. I have no faith in them anymore. There will be no constructive response because the bastards will take charge before the citizenry has a chance to grow up and act accordingly. Therefore I am a doomer.
However I don't believe the resulting chaos will be everywhere because it won't be a direct consequence of geologic depletion. I believe basic foodstuff will always be available to the huddled masses. They will have their gruel in the morning and and mush at night. But conveniences and fun food will disappear
So let's sing along
"Gruel in the morning and
and mush at night."
"Gruel in the morning and
and mush at night."
I think some places (wealthy, remote, small agriculture towns in the north, lucky places/nice depots, etc.) might be fine. That is why I live here _________________ ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap
Joined: Sep 25, 2004 Posts: 4240 Location: Boston, MA
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Santa Barbara or Oregon Coast ??
vision-master wrote:
The median price of a single-family home on the South Coast of Santa Barbara County has reached the $1 million mark the highest in California.
I guess you can live about anywhere you wish...........
I had the exact same though.
My sister goes to UCSB and if she wanted to buy a house there...forget it!
If you bought your house in Santa Barbara more than a couple of years ago you should sell, take the equity, and buy a house outright somewhere less expensive.
But I don't know what you do for a living, how much debt you have, children/wife?, and so on.
There is no place that is a perfect for everyone. It all depends heavily on personal factors that I don't know because you haven't given us any information. _________________ "www.peakoil.com is the Myspace of the Apocalypse."
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