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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: The Oldest Tool You Own and Use
I still use steel fingernail clippers with 'Made in Germany' stamped on them. They're from the 1920's or 30's. They have not corroded one bit and look like new.
I believe they'll work for centuries. _________________ Got Dharma?
Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 4313 Location: Graceland
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: The Oldest Tool You Own and Use
eastbay wrote:
I still use steel fingernail clippers with 'Made in Germany' stamped on them. They're from the 1920's or 30's. They have not corroded one bit and look like new.
I believe they'll work for centuries.
I had a very nice stainless Gerber pop-out fingernail clipper, with a small blade and scissors.
I was looking forward to using it for decades, but it was in my briefcase when I went through airport security a few months ago and I had to surrender it as a tribute to the war on terror.
I believe that may have been the largest single sacrifice I have been asked to make thus far in the war on terror. _________________
Joined: Jun 30, 2005 Posts: 731 Location: northern California
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: The Oldest Tool You Own and Use
In 1964 as a college freshman I took a course in forestry surveying. We had to buy a Silva Ranger compass. It accompanied me through 8 seasons as wilderness ranger, plus many other adventures, and now rides in my bob bag, good as new, 44 years later. _________________ "When men yield up the privilege of thinking, the last shadow of liberty quits the horizon."
Thomas Paine
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: The Oldest Tool You Own and Use
I have a few Russian bolt action rifles (the Mosin Nagant) that were basically captured by the Finns during their wars for independence with the Russians. The rifles were then reworked into much better rifles. The original parts are 115 to 80 years old. The Finnish M39 Mosins are extremely accurate and durable rifles, shooting 1.5 MOA on average. They shoot a full-power rifle round too, similar in ballistics to a .30-06.
They are functional pieces of incredible history. I also have some 60 year old ammo that shoots just fine.
I also have a couple of Swedish Mausers that are about 100 to 90 years old which will shoot 1-1.25 MOA. They are higher quality rifles than any sub-$1200 rifle made today.
I've also got a 1903A3 Springfield bolt action rifle which was the standard rifle issued to US troops in WW-1, and later used as the US sniper rifle in WW-2 because it was so accurate. And also a WW-2 M1 Garand rifle. They are dead nuts accurate and very well-made.
Many items machined in the past are vastly superior to what is made today. You just have to know where to look, and how to maintain those old items so that the forgings do not fracture or corrode.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: The Oldest Tool You Own and Use
For tools, I have a couple of good drawknives that are around 100 years old, no moving parts to wear out, use them all the time. One of the most useful tools you can have.
In our book collection we have quite a few from the 1500's and 1600's. My favorites are the journals of the early explorers. I have a first edition of Cook's Voyages, and also Dampier's accounts with the fold out maps showing what they knew of the world at the time. Where I live isn't even on the maps, they kind of fade out around southern California and Baja. Also have "Morse's Universal Geography" printed in the U.S. in 1782, right after the ratification of the Constitution. Amazing to read the natural history sections, about the great elk herds of Virginia and so on. Also a unique story in there about Columbus, how he was in West Africa and found a canoe with a strange looking body in it and was told it had blown in on the current from the west. Probably a Caribbean native caught in a hurricane, but the story says that's what gave him the inspiration to head west across the ocean. Never seen that story anywhere else. Really makes you appreciate rag paper, many of the books from the 1500's are in great condition due to the acid free rag paper they used, whereas it's hard to find a book from the 1800's due to the crappy wood pulp paper in use at the time.
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:42 am Post subject: Re: The Oldest Tool You Own and Use
I have an old (~80years?) tool that sees daily use during season. Problem is I don't rightly know what it's called in English. I often use it together with a sledgehammer and a pick axe when moving/breaking rock, which I suppose it the common usage. It's a steel bar, about 1.5 meters in length, with a hexagonal cross section slightly tapering towards the back of the bar. At the very front the bar becomes square and comes together to a flat point about 4 cm wide.
An online translation service suggests this may be called a "spit" but that hardly seems right. Nor does "pry bar" since the thing is completely straight, though I use it to pry rocks loose a lot.
Modern iterations are partly aluminium, but I like the heavy steel as long as I'm strong enough to wield it.
Other common uses:
-general all-purpose lever (nudging heavy things around etc.)
-probing and making holes in sea ice
-dog imprisonment device. Sink into lawn, attach dog leash
Either way, I suppose the tool will last forever. Last summer I gave it a coat of day-glow paint, so I don't constantly lose sight of the rust brown thing laying on the ground somewhere.
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:00 am Post subject: Re: The Oldest Tool You Own and Use
BigTex wrote:
Well, I guess it's about time to start talking about cannibalism.
The neighbors are edible are'nt they? Lyposuction as a fuel source has never been tried.
When I saw the title of the thread I knew at least ten posts were going to be innuendo (if not full blown gratuities.)
I own a pair of cheap eight year old screwdrivers (one phillips one standard) and a pair of adjustable pliers (both standard.) It sounds cumbersome but it works for most things around the house. I'm not sure I can fashion a sustainable lifestyle with them but I am American, and I do have a dream. _________________ I return to you now at the turning of the tide.
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: Re: The Oldest Tool You Own and Use
nemo wrote:
I have an old (~80years?) tool that sees daily use during season. Problem is I don't rightly know what it's called in English. I often use it together with a sledgehammer and a pick axe when moving/breaking rock, which I suppose it the common usage. It's a steel bar, about 1.5 meters in length, with a hexagonal cross section slightly tapering towards the back of the bar. At the very front the bar becomes square and comes together to a flat point about 4 cm wide.
An online translation service suggests this may be called a "spit" but that hardly seems right. Nor does "pry bar" since the thing is completely straight, though I use it to pry rocks loose a lot.
Modern iterations are partly aluminium, but I like the heavy steel as long as I'm strong enough to wield it.
Other common uses:
-general all-purpose lever (nudging heavy things around etc.)
-probing and making holes in sea ice
-dog imprisonment device. Sink into lawn, attach dog leash
Either way, I suppose the tool will last forever. Last summer I gave it a coat of day-glow paint, so I don't constantly lose sight of the rust brown thing laying on the ground somewhere.
Joined: Jun 30, 2005 Posts: 731 Location: northern California
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: Re: The Oldest Tool You Own and Use
That thing sounds like what we used for trail maintenance in the wilderness--we called it a "rock bar". Some of the guys were pretty deadly with it, de-limbing downed trees by swinging it wildly... _________________ "When men yield up the privilege of thinking, the last shadow of liberty quits the horizon."
Thomas Paine
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 1583 Location: Nez Perce Nation
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: The Oldest Tool You Own and Use
Pops wrote:
GeoJAP wrote:
We call them "breaker" bars here, I think.
Yea or a "pike" - pretty useful here as there lots of floater rocks compacted in a mix of gravel and clay about 2ft down.
It is getting lots heavier to me as well as time goes by...
Yep, I got one of those from my dad. He just used to call it the "iron bar" A very simple but useful tool. It used to weigh a lot when I was a kid. When dad gave it to me 13 years ago it didn't weigh nearly as much. Now it seems to be taking on a few extra pounds. _________________ "Modern Agriculture is the use of land to convert petroleum into food."
-- Albert Bartlett
"It will be a dark time. But for those who survive, I suspect it will be rather exciting."
-- James Lovelock
Joined: Nov 09, 2004 Posts: 1236 Location: Big Rock Candy Mountain
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: The Oldest Tool You Own and Use
Arcade flour mill ca 1930
Copper Clad cook stove ca 1930
Sharps-Borchardt Model 1878 Sporting Model single shot rifle, cal 45-120, Fancy walnut pistol grip buttstock with buffalo horn cap and 2 1/2" vernier tang sight (80% original finish) Bought at Sportsman's Surplus in Missoula MT in 1977 for $350--eat your heart out. (550 grain/1320fps-kills on both ends)
A shop full of old carpenter's hand tools, mostly ca 1880-1950 including Stanley 45, Sweetheart era 55 (fascinating, but hopelessly complicated to actually use-bought in Ennis MT in 1980, complete with all 55 cutters, for $75), 113 circular, etc, etc.
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