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Specop_007
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 Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:44 am Post subject: Re: Shotgun extras recommendations? |
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| gnm wrote: | Easy... Stainless Ruger 10/22LR with scope. Cheap ammo, lightweight, suitable for most purposes if not great for all...
What say you Spec? 
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Cant go wrong with a .22, but if your primary purpose for buying a rifle is defense against 2 legged critters....It really isnt the best choice. For small game hunting (rabbit and squirrel) I would say it is by FAR the best choice.
But really, why muck around with hunting squirrel and rabbit. For half the cost of the gun you can build a cage and stick 2 rabbits in it. Following the proverbial "like bunnies" you'll have more food then you know what to do with in short order.
Still, EVERYONE should own at least a .22 rifle IMO.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:56 am Post subject: Re: Shotgun extras recommendations? |
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| steam_cannon wrote: | | Quote: | | Shotgun extras recommendations? |
Chainsaw.
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Naturally. I thought you all had the chainsaw attached already. But if you don't you definitely need to get that first.
Tex, Good call on the AR with the .22 conversion kit. That would be a nice all around as well...
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BigTex
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: Re: Shotgun extras recommendations? |
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| seldom_seen wrote: | Keep it simple. You don't need a bunch of doo-dads and gizmos hanging off your shotgun.
| BigTex wrote: | | Stay away from the Ruger Mini-14. |
Holy hells bells. I love the mini. One of the funnest to shoot, most reliable, easy to take down, light, compact, affordable autoloading centerfire rifles out theres. |
I have owned a Mini-14 and enjoyed it a lot, but when I moved up to an AR-15 style rifle, I saw what a superior weapon it was in MANY ways. Back then the Mini-14 was about $400 and the Colt Sporters were about $750. The cost difference was worth it to me.
Also, I believe the AR style rifles are WAY more accurate than the Mini-14.
But the Mini-14 is cool. I wonder how many of them the A-Team sold for Ruger.
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PrairieMule
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Shotgun extras recommendations? |
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If you have a mossberg, I highly recomend a Speedfeed tactical stock.
http://www.bizrate.com/hunting_archeryequipment/oid491577897__nwylf--.html
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davep
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: Shotgun extras recommendations? |
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If yours is double-barreled (like mine), I recommend a lot of practice.
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NiKfUrY69
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:07 am Post subject: Re: Shotgun extras recommendations? |
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| ShinyOldLady wrote: | Just got a Mossberg 12 g, need some advice on what type of light system to get, mounting brackets for light, recommended sights, scopes and would you recommend the Vang choke system alteration?
Also, if I was to have only one rifle for general use, what would you recommend? |
Best accessory for a Mossberg 12 ga? A Knox Sidewinder! 10rd drum!
Oooo! Ahhhh!
Nah! - Either a tube extension or just keep it simple.
G'luck - NiK |
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ShinyOldLady
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: Shotgun extras recommendations? |
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Thanks SO much! Sorry about not posting this in the gun thread that I couldn't originally find. Think I've got all the info I need now.
Yes, I've got the chainsaw!
The russian Saiga (?) sounds cool and I will check into it more. Meanwhile, it looks like I might want to budget in both a .22 and an AR15 in the long run. Larger game, 2 legged pests and general zombies being the targets here.
The Mossberg 590 I got has a sculptured stock that fits in the hand like a pistol, so I am reluctant to change it. It's comfortable and seems to absorb some of the recoil. It is a single barrel, 8 shot, so the SpeedFeed isn't as much of a draw. I joined a shotgun range yesterday and got to shoot it to check the patterning, which was WAY more accurate than I thought. Lovely gun, the guys at the range called it a "kitchen sweeper."
Thanks so much. Business is slower this year, so I can't as easily buy as much as in previous years, so your advice is very appreciated. Glad I got some of my major post-PO items when financial times were better (water filters, bee equipment, woodstoves, etc.) This has been an awesome site. |
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jato
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:47 am Post subject: Re: Shotgun extras recommendations? |
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| Quote: | | Just got a Mossberg 12 g, need some advice on what type of light system to get, mounting brackets for light, recommended sights, scopes and would you recommend the Vang choke system alteration? |
I would put a white light on the shotgun to identify targets. Also have some extra shells somewhere on the gun. I use the Surefire fore grip.
I can grab my shotgun and have 6 in the magazine + 5 in the butt holder + 4 in the stock for a total of 15 rounds.
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Also, if I was to have only one rifle for general use, what would you recommend? |
AR15
Or
If you want to take large game, get something in .308 (M1A, FN-FAL, HK91, etc.)
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NiKfUrY69
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: Shotgun extras recommendations? |
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Yo Jato - gotta question on the extension yer gun has. Is there any reason you didn't get the stabilizer clamp that fits between the extension tube and the main barrel? Been lookin' for one for my Savage but no such luck so far. May hafta get a machinist to work me somethin'.
Nice gun.
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fossil_fuel
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: Shotgun extras recommendations? |
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| Does fenix make lights that are shock-isolated? I thought that fenix didn't make anything appropriate for putting on a firearm |
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jato
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:37 am Post subject: Re: Shotgun extras recommendations? |
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| Quote: | | Yo Jato - gotta question on the extension yer gun has. Is there any reason you didn't get the stabilizer clamp that fits between the extension tube and the main barrel? |
It is a Wilson Combat +2 magazine extension. Wilson says they are so strong; they do not need a barrel clamp.
I also have a +3 from Choate Machine & Tool. The Choate requires a barrel clamp and I use it on my other Remington 870.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: Shotgun extras recommendations? |
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| seldom_seen wrote: | Keep it simple. You don't need a bunch of doo-dads and gizmos hanging off your shotgun.
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Agree 100%. |
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allenwrench
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Shotgun extras recommendations? |
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Not much feedback for shotguns. Mine are basic express 8 shots 12 GA with easy off slings.
I will say I was shocked at the cost of long range magnum goose loads. Was told China is buying up all the lead. Sorry I got rid of all my shotgun reloading stuff I had lots of components.But back then shells were so cheap it hardly was worth the effort.
Here are some interesting loads
http://www.hi-vel.com/Catalog__18/Specialized_Shotshell_Ammuniti/specialized_shotshell_ammuniti.html |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Shotgun extras recommendations? |
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| allenwrench wrote: |
I will say I was shocked at the cost of long range magnum goose loads. Was told China is buying up all the lead. |
Ammo prices have at least doubled in the last 2 years, and in some cases gone up 600%. Some of this is related to the weak dollar and increased demand for raw materials like lead and copper.
But in the USA, surplus ammo prices have also gone up because there is less supply. The UN is slowly getting countries who used to surplus all their old arms and ammo for cash to quit doing so and destroy it instead. Many of these old guns and ammo wer imported by American arms wholesalers and sold to the shooting public. The days of 3 cent per round Turkish 8mm and 10 cent per round Portuguese and South African 7.62x51 are long gone. |
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allenwrench
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Shotgun extras recommendations? |
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| GeoJAP wrote: | | allenwrench wrote: |
I will say I was shocked at the cost of long range magnum goose loads. Was told China is buying up all the lead. |
Ammo prices have at least doubled in the last 2 years, and in some cases gone up 600%. Some of this is related to the weak dollar and increased demand for raw materials like lead and copper.
But in the USA, surplus ammo prices have also gone up because there is less supply. The UN is slowly getting countries who used to surplus all their old arms and ammo for cash to quit doing so and destroy it instead. Many of these old guns and ammo wer imported by American arms wholesalers and sold to the shooting public. The days of 3 cent per round Turkish 8mm and 10 cent per round Portuguese and South African 7.62x51 are long gone. |
I heard the mil is going to plastic tungsten bullets and phasing out lead copper shortly.
If that is true, maybe lots of surplus stuff coming on line soon? |
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