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Tanada Expert


Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3278 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, we |
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never pump more than right now"
I stumbled across an interview with David Andelman, exec ed at Forbes dot com at 7:25 PM EDT today. In the course of the four minute segment he predicted;
$300.00 bbl oil within a couple years
Oil production has peaked now
Intercontinental air travle will cease except for the very wealthy
likely to be replaced by passenger ships for the average person...
intracontenental air travle may also cease to exist and we will be back to rail or Conestoga wagon trips as oil production collapses... _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov |
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vision-master Fusion


Joined: May 18, 2006 Posts: 3478 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, |
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Tanada Expert


Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3278 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, |
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| vision-master wrote: | | No linky....... |
Sorry I saw it live on cable TV half an hour ago while flipping channels and CNN.com/HLN/ doesn't have a transcript up yet. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov |
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BigTex Moderator


Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 3896 Location: Graceland
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, |
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| Tanada wrote: | | We will be back to rail or Conestoga wagon trips as oil production collapses... |
Was he serious?
That will be pretty big news for the business traveller.
The new Boston to New York shuttle:
(Check out those high tech wheels. Nothing old-west about that!):
 _________________ Our window of opportunity is slowly closing...at the same time, it probably requires a spiral of adversity. In other words, things have to get worse before they can get better.
-M. King Hubbert, 1983 |
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cube Fusion

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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, |
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I was thinking more of a rail system.
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Tanada Expert


Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3278 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, |
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Aparently CNN/HLN is replaying the show at 9 PM for anyone who has cable and is interested. The interveiw starts at about 20 minutes after the hour begins. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov |
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BigTex Moderator


Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 3896 Location: Graceland
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, |
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I thought Forbes was the "$40 per barrel" magazine.
I've heard Steve Forbes patiently explain it in his patronizing elitist manner many times.
What happened? _________________ Our window of opportunity is slowly closing...at the same time, it probably requires a spiral of adversity. In other words, things have to get worse before they can get better.
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Tanada Expert


Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3278 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, |
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| BigTex wrote: | | Tanada wrote: | | We will be back to rail or Conestoga wagon trips as oil production collapses... |
Was he serious?
That will be pretty big news for the business traveller.
The new Boston to New York shuttle:
(Check out those high tech wheels. Nothing old-west about that!):
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I beleive it was in the context that his ancestor emmigrated to the US by ship and many people travled to the west coast by Conestoga wagon. I was trying to remember the important parts and post them so I didn't put a lot of weight in what I thought was hyperbole. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov |
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BigTex Moderator


Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 3896 Location: Graceland
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, |
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| Tanada wrote: | | BigTex wrote: | | Tanada wrote: | | We will be back to rail or Conestoga wagon trips as oil production collapses... |
Was he serious?
That will be pretty big news for the business traveller.
The new Boston to New York shuttle:
(Check out those high tech wheels. Nothing old-west about that!):
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I beleive it was in the context that his ancestor emmigrated to the US by ship and many people travled to the west coast by Conestoga wagon. I was trying to remember the important parts and post them so I didn't put a lot of weight in what I thought was hyperbole. |
WHEW!
I thought for a second he might have been saying that the American way of life was negotiable.
      _________________ Our window of opportunity is slowly closing...at the same time, it probably requires a spiral of adversity. In other words, things have to get worse before they can get better.
-M. King Hubbert, 1983 |
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Tanada Expert


Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3278 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, |
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| BigTex wrote: | | Tanada wrote: | | BigTex wrote: | | Tanada wrote: | | We will be back to rail or Conestoga wagon trips as oil production collapses... |
Was he serious?
That will be pretty big news for the business traveller.
The new Boston to New York shuttle:
(Check out those high tech wheels. Nothing old-west about that!):
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I beleive it was in the context that his ancestor emmigrated to the US by ship and many people travled to the west coast by Conestoga wagon. I was trying to remember the important parts and post them so I didn't put a lot of weight in what I thought was hyperbole. |
WHEW!
I thought for a second he might have been saying that the American way of life was negotiable. |
No, not negotiable. Ended. Over. Fini. No more cheap oil. The toast is burnt and the soup pot is boiling over when someoneone with that kind of financial background publically says the things he said tonight.
IMO of course. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov |
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patience Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, |
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Somehow, I don't think actual negotiation will save us in this situation. No matter how hard any of us try to cope up with mitigation/transition ideas, it looks like the general run of people will screw it up. I don't think more time would help, either. What have we accomplished since the 1970's?
Been a real depressing day at PO.com. _________________ Local fix-it guy.. |
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Ludi Expert


Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 11367 Location: Village of Idiots
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, |
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| cube wrote: | | I was thinking more of a rail system. |
Oh my, that is one sorry-lookin' critter.  _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy |
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centralstump Tar Sands


Joined: Sep 27, 2007 Posts: 62
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, |
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If I hadn't seen it, I wouldn't have believed it.
In other news, veteran Reporter and Forbes dot com editor David Andelman was found dead today . . . |
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Eli Fusion


Joined: Jun 18, 2005 Posts: 3677 Location: In a van down by the river
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, |
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What Show was it on?
This has been a depressing day at PO.com. The global food shortages is freaking me out. |
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Homesteader Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Apr 12, 2007 Posts: 1009 Location: Central NC
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, |
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| Eli wrote: | What Show was it on?
This has been a depressing day at PO.com. The global food shortages is freaking me out. |
I'm a relative newcomer to the site, so I say this to you veterans. . .
One of those times when it sucks to be right.  |
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