Organized Crime Trying to Control Energy Resources?

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Ludi

Diversion in order to allow for more "war on terror" activities.

International criminals = terrorists
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Ferretlover

I honestly don't know if this is true.
I haven't heard anything else about this.
Given the history of organized crime's activities, it would make sense.
Unfortunately, I don't trust our government to tell the truth as far as I could throw my house.
I wonder how heavily organized crime is involved in food markets?

OH! and,
International criminals = terrorists=corrupt governments
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steam_cannon · Expert Joined: Dec 28, 2006 Posts: 2425 Location: MA

This sounds a bit like how we've declared all of Iran's banking as
criminal in our economic war against them. I wonder if this is related?
Perhaps anyone wanting to trade in Euros instead of Petrodollars is
an organized crime syndicate trying to control energy resources?

I'm not sure that's what's going on, but it sounds awfully similar to this:

joeltrout

If you use a loose definition of organized crime then OPEC would fall into it or govts such as Venezula.

Organized crime such as the mafia might be able to control local energy resources but not on a large scale.

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wisconsin_cur

Looking at the votes so far it looks like I did a poor job writing the questions.
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auscanman

I chose other for three reasons:

First, the hand of organized crime extends a lot further than most imagine. If there's money to be made in something, you can be pretty certain that organized crime, of some sort, is involved... eg. shark finning, metal stripping, drugs,etc. So, it seems pretty clear that they'd get involved in energy resources.

Second, given the aforementioned extent of organized crime, and the fact that all who accept bribes from organized criminals are a party to their crimes, there is now a severe blurring of the lines between politicians, and organized criminals.

Finally, the distinction between organized criminals and corporations is also a blurry one. Corporations can effectively bribe politicians, and get laws that stand in their way changed through lobbying. Organized criminals just pay to have those laws ignored rather than changed, and internalize their profits to a greater extent than public corporations, who have shareholders to pay dividends to. Plenty of corporations have adopted the tactics of organized crime in developing countries in the past, and continue to do so today, including oil companies. So, in reality organized crime has controlled energy resources for a long time.

idiom

And here's me thinking they were manufacturing bootleg Solar Panels.

Dreamtwister · Fission Joined: Feb 06, 2006 Posts: 2093

"Organized crime" is just the term the ruling criminals use to label their smaller competitors.
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steam_cannon · Expert Joined: Dec 28, 2006 Posts: 2425 Location: MA

Kaj · Heavy Crude Joined: Dec 06, 2006 Posts: 378

When I saw the thread title, I thought it was gonna be about the US admisitration...

joewp

I chose "other" but really, what do you call an organization that literally prints money and charges interest on it, and if you don't pay has its goons (sheriff) throw you out of your house?

The only real organized crime around here is the federal government and the banks and corporations.
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steam_cannon · Expert Joined: Dec 28, 2006 Posts: 2425 Location: MA

To summarize this thread:

The US has reclassified all entities not kowtowing to US interests as
criminals or if they "might" have guns, terrorists! Laughing

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