Don’t worry, just a little bump - $70 is just around the corner. Short traders just keep making those margin calls, mortgage the house if you have to. Fortunes await you! PO is for pansies and doomers. At $70 short some more ..... it is going back to $22 .... the world is awash with oil ........ reality has nothing to do with it, its all in those charts!!!!!!!!!!
Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 4054 Location: Gathering
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?
davep wrote:
Well, my wife was used to having a well-paid husband, while she looked after our daughter and spent my money.
Then I told her I had quit my job and we were moving to the country. This went down like a lead balloon for some reason.
However, despite all her threats, here we are in the country, I'm finishing my farming placement this week, to become a recognised farmer (i.e. to buy more land).
She would enjoy it if it weren't for the financial insecurity. I've sorted that by getting a well-paid job again. So, hopefully we're in the best of all worlds.
After this smug little post, she'll probably leave me tomorrow.
So it's kind of like Green Acres with a doomer twist? _________________
Joined: Nov 16, 2007 Posts: 270 Location: Rural Western Idaho
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?
Nano wrote:
I have about the same situation as you, only I am the man in this case. I think I know what your man's problem is. It is the fact that there is very little for people to really do about the peak oil problem. Of course: you can save money and cut down on energy use, sure, but the fact is we still don't know enough about how the world will decisively react to peak oil - the macroscopic consequences and fallout are still difficult to predict. So until one knows more about that, the major preparedness changes like perhaps moving somewhere else or getting a different job still require extensive 'thinking about the problem' or 'worrying' in other words. No?
Your point might be well taken in general, but in our case it is not applicable.
1. 2.5 years ago we bought 7.5 acres with an old farm house, artesian well, etc. -- and left the city.
2. 1.5 years ago he stopped working (telecommuting) full time,and went to part time in order to be able to devote more time to reclaiming the land and developing the farm.
3. 1 year ago, he went to an on-contract basis only, which ends this month. i.e. I am the breadwinner, and have been for the greatest part for over a year.
4. So the whole question of moving/getting different job are not applicable in our case.
I work full time practicing rural psychiatry. (Not lucrative as it would be in the city, but way more fulfilling -- and I would NEVER want to move back to the city.)
So I don't think you have struck upon the explanation for the difference between the way he expends more energy worrying and I spend more energy doing -- in comparison to one another.
Lumpy _________________ Dean Karnazes : "Run when you can, walk when you have to, crawl if you must; just never give up." --- Jackie Joyner-Kersee: "It is better to look forward & prepare, than to look back & regret."
Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3375 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?
While I can not blame Peak Oil for this mess I am in the hours I have spent on here were certainly not a help. Due to my inattention to my marriage and my wife's inherent need to spend money and her wanderlust she came home Sunday night (48 hours ago) and informed me she is filing for a divorce. I spent the last two days trying to convince her of what a bad idea it would be for her to do this to no avail. So here I am, 6 years and 9 months into what I thought was the marriage I would die-off in, deciding how to split up what few assets and many debts which have accumulated in my marriage.
Those of you who are so inclined, please pray for us. I know financially this is going to be a big setback for me and I also know my wife's history of spending more than she can afford to when she is single. I do not anticipate a happy resolution, so a miracle would be really helpful right about now. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?
I think women in general are somewhat more receptive to societal programming and mind control. Peak oil is too threatening to most people's worldview especially the more heavily brainwashed types. This largely includes the service and duty oriented types of people which are a massive chunk of the population. Furthermore I think you have to have somebody that can see the truth. Few people in this world are critical thinking and truth seeking. Without the ability to process the complexity and see through the politics and games who's to say where the truth lies? I think that's the major problem here is that most have little to no faculties to wake themselves up to these matters in advance of what's coming. _________________ Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destory health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality.
Joined: Apr 12, 2007 Posts: 1162 Location: Central NC
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?
Tanada wrote:
While I can not blame Peak Oil for this mess I am in the hours I have spent on here were certainly not a help. Due to my inattention to my marriage and my wife's inherent need to spend money and her wanderlust she came home Sunday night (48 hours ago) and informed me she is filing for a divorce. I spent the last two days trying to convince her of what a bad idea it would be for her to do this to no avail. So here I am, 6 years and 9 months into what I thought was the marriage I would die-off in, deciding how to split up what few assets and many debts which have accumulated in my marriage.
Those of you who are so inclined, please pray for us. I know financially this is going to be a big setback for me and I also know my wife's history of spending more than she can afford to when she is single. I do not anticipate a happy resolution, so a miracle would be really helpful right about now.
Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 4054 Location: Gathering
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?
Homesteader wrote:
Tanada wrote:
While I can not blame Peak Oil for this mess I am in the hours I have spent on here were certainly not a help. Due to my inattention to my marriage and my wife's inherent need to spend money and her wanderlust she came home Sunday night (48 hours ago) and informed me she is filing for a divorce. I spent the last two days trying to convince her of what a bad idea it would be for her to do this to no avail. So here I am, 6 years and 9 months into what I thought was the marriage I would die-off in, deciding how to split up what few assets and many debts which have accumulated in my marriage.
Those of you who are so inclined, please pray for us. I know financially this is going to be a big setback for me and I also know my wife's history of spending more than she can afford to when she is single. I do not anticipate a happy resolution, so a miracle would be really helpful right about now.
Been there Tanada. I'm sorry for you.
I've been there too, and it's the worst. What's hard to figure out is whether it's better to just end it or to try to get her back just to have it fall apart again.
Much more challenging than assembling a good bugout bag.
No kids, I assume?
Best of luck. Very tough times there. _________________
Joined: Oct 04, 2004 Posts: 5099 Location: Oklahoma
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?
Tanada wrote:
Those of you who are so inclined, please pray for us.
Will do. The worst of our difficulties also happened just before the 7 year anniversary, and while every situation is different I do think there is something to that 7 year itch thing.
Our own problems were not really related to peak oil, in fact in most ways our marriage is ideal for dealing with that since we have similar expectations and lifestyle desires. We currently have a level of harmony that is tolerable and healthy enough for our son to be around, and hopefully it will either continue to improve or at least not degenerate again for all our sakes. At the time I filed for divorce I was convinced it was the only way to save my own sanity (literally) enough to allow me to be a parent at all, or I wouldn't have done it. We went through two extended separations and every other thing we could think of to try to make it work. We eventually just settled back down, after working out a settlement and everything - we just never made it to court.
Anyway, I don't know much about your situation so I certainly can't give you advice, but you definitely do have my sympathy. It's a terrible thing to go through, especially when there are children involved. Good luck, whatever happens. _________________ "Every junkie's like a setting sun..." - Neil Young
Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3375 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?
BigTex wrote:
I've been there too, and it's the worst. What's hard to figure out is whether it's better to just end it or to try to get her back just to have it fall apart again.
Much more challenging than assembling a good bugout bag.
No kids, I assume?
Best of luck. Very tough times there.
The worst thing is, this was the second marriage for each of us and both having gone through it before we anticipated this time being different. Sadly I was too foolish, she has spent the last two months aranging her lists of wants and arranging the paperwork accordingly. Now I have to go over the list umpteen times to make sure I don't end up rowing on a very shitty creek with no paddles in sight. She even put the Christmas gift she got me last December as well as some wedding presents from our marriage on her half of the property division table she drew up.
This is definatly not the time for me to try and protect her interests as well as mine, she is doing all too good a job of setting herself on the winning side.
Sorry if I sound bitter, this whole thing has been a real punch in the kidney's, blindside, life changing event. Hell we had made plans for two weeks vacation plus my step son's high school graduation at the end of May. I was anticipating all sorts of events the rest of the year that have now evaporated like pixie dust, hell I just confirmed with my boss last week that I had the Graduation weekend off for a four day trip. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov
Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 4054 Location: Gathering
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?
Tanada wrote:
BigTex wrote:
I've been there too, and it's the worst. What's hard to figure out is whether it's better to just end it or to try to get her back just to have it fall apart again.
Much more challenging than assembling a good bugout bag.
No kids, I assume?
Best of luck. Very tough times there.
The worst thing is, this was the second marriage for each of us and both having gone through it before we anticipated this time being different. Sadly I was too foolish, she has spent the last two months aranging her lists of wants and arranging the paperwork accordingly. Now I have to go over the list umpteen times to make sure I don't end up rowing on a very shitty creek with no paddles in sight. She even put the Christmas gift she got me last December as well as some wedding presents from our marriage on her half of the property division table she drew up.
This is definatly not the time for me to try and protect her interests as well as mine, she is doing all too good a job of setting herself on the winning side.
Sorry if I sound bitter, this whole thing has been a real punch in the kidney's, blindside, life changing event. Hell we had made plans for two weeks vacation plus my step son's high school graduation at the end of May. I was anticipating all sorts of events the rest of the year that have now evaporated like pixie dust, hell I just confirmed with my boss last week that I had the Graduation weekend off for a four day trip.
Again, so sorry to hear about this.
Find a friend or relative you can talk to and who will listen. If you've been through this before you know the terrain. _________________
Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 11880 Location: zombie horde wonderland
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?
Oh I'm very sorry, Tanada. I honestly can't imagine what it must be like. _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy
Joined: Oct 04, 2004 Posts: 5099 Location: Oklahoma
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?
Tanada wrote:
She even put the Christmas gift she got me last December as well as some wedding presents from our marriage on her half of the property division table she drew up...
This is definatly not the time for me to try and protect her interests as well as mine, she is doing all too good a job of setting herself on the winning side.
When I thought my marriage was ending the last thing I cared about was a bunch of "stuff". I hear about women doing this a lot, but I will never understand it. I'm so sorry. _________________ "Every junkie's like a setting sun..." - Neil Young
Joined: Sep 16, 2007 Posts: 1093 Location: Oklahoma City, USA
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?
I'm so sorry, Tanada. I can't imagine how hard this must be for you.
My marriage is a bit rough, as we've sort of gone our ways as far as beliefs. Peak oil has just sharpened things in my mind. DH refuses to believe anything but that technology and the government will save us, and bought a flat-screen TV 'for the house' for xmas (with all the works, $10k in total).
But he's a good man and provides well, and he doesn't mind me buying freeze dried food and raising rabbits and redoing our yard. So whatever. _________________ What, so I'm in no end game
Move my piece right off the board
Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3375 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?
RedStateGreen wrote:
I'm so sorry, Tanada. I can't imagine how hard this must be for you.
My marriage is a bit rough, as we've sort of gone our ways as far as beliefs. Peak oil has just sharpened things in my mind. DH refuses to believe anything but that technology and the government will save us, and bought a flat-screen TV 'for the house' for xmas (with all the works, $10k in total).
But he's a good man and provides well, and he doesn't mind me buying freeze dried food and raising rabbits and redoing our yard. So whatever.
RedstateGreen, you are a wise woman and smart enough to have married well. Congrats on that. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov
Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3375 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?
BigTex wrote:
Homesteader wrote:
Tanada wrote:
While I can not blame Peak Oil for this mess I am in the hours I have spent on here were certainly not a help. Due to my inattention to my marriage and my wife's inherent need to spend money and her wanderlust she came home Sunday night (48 hours ago) and informed me she is filing for a divorce. I spent the last two days trying to convince her of what a bad idea it would be for her to do this to no avail. So here I am, 6 years and 9 months into what I thought was the marriage I would die-off in, deciding how to split up what few assets and many debts which have accumulated in my marriage.
Those of you who are so inclined, please pray for us. I know financially this is going to be a big setback for me and I also know my wife's history of spending more than she can afford to when she is single. I do not anticipate a happy resolution, so a miracle would be really helpful right about now.
Been there Tanada. I'm sorry for you.
I've been there too, and it's the worst. What's hard to figure out is whether it's better to just end it or to try to get her back just to have it fall apart again.
Much more challenging than assembling a good bugout bag.
No kids, I assume?
Best of luck. Very tough times there.
Three step-kids from her prior marriage who live down in cincy with their bio-dad. She went to visit them this weekend and told them before coming home and springing it on me, ambush like. I wonder what she would have done if they discouraged her in this course of action?
Thank you for the well wishes, they are much appreciated. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov
Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3375 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?
Shannymara wrote:
Tanada wrote:
She even put the Christmas gift she got me last December as well as some wedding presents from our marriage on her half of the property division table she drew up...
This is definatly not the time for me to try and protect her interests as well as mine, she is doing all too good a job of setting herself on the winning side.
When I thought my marriage was ending the last thing I cared about was a bunch of "stuff". I hear about women doing this a lot, but I will never understand it. I'm so sorry.
Thanx Shanny, I know everyone has ups and downs, I thought this was just a down period until I was ambushed. Now I am starting to get angry, instead of depressed, but it is just the cycle of stages from the shock of it all. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov
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