Europeans now building 50 new coal-fired power plants

Plantagenet

Thanks Europe.

Why not pick the absolutely worst power systems to build that you can in terms of CO2 pollution. Oh thats right.....you already are.

The EU's 50 new coal-fired power plants promise decades of new CO2 pollution.

Let us know when the North Sea starts flooding lowlands areas in Flanders and Holland and around Venice.....

dohboi · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Dec 05, 2005 Posts: 1158

Thanks, Plantagenet, for making me even more depressed than I was from the news that the tundras are thawing and releasing their CH4, and that the US and Korea are working together on schemes to mine hydrates at the bottom of the ocean that are likely to set of the "clathrate gun."

I really would rather not be a doomer, but it's getting pretty hard to avoid.

Tyler_JC

I saw that article too.

Unbelievable.

And we get lectured about Kyoto... Rolling Eyes

In 2006, US CO2 emissions fell by .3% (not nearly enough to make a difference but it's a start), in Europe emissions ROSE by 1.8%.

In the years between 2000 and 2006, Europe's emissions rose by more than 1% per year, America's emissions rose by only .4% per year.

Both need to reduce their emissions but it's clear that the Europeans are not blameless on this one.

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seldom_seen · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Apr 12, 2005 Posts: 1948

americandream

nemo

Sonofabitch. I guess this is what happens when you don't have a unified energy policy. Finland goes nuclear, Italy and Germany goes "OMG ATOMS!" and chose the dirtiest power source imaginable.

Italy is Europe's Mexico, so that's their excuse I suppose, but Germany should know better, seriously. I don't get it. They're really metodish and progressive about wind and solar and still make a dick move like this out of irrational fission fear. I'm not blind to the problems of nukes, but it beats nasty nasty coal, that's for sure.

Then there's the British. Since they're, well, British, this is to be expected. Vive la France.

Edit: as for Kyoto: yeah, this sucks, Europe sucks. We suck. But I can't help to feel that things could have turned out differently if, you know, all the other major players hadn't decided to completely ignore the issue and piss all over the treaty from the get-go. Some real leadership from North America could have made a difference in this case is my suspicion. That still leaves China out, but it would have been better nonetheless.

jato · Last edited by jato on Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:25 am; edited 1 time in total

Entropyfails was dead on: Our current economic system will eat the planet.

We are going to burn every fossil fuel we can get a hold of. The Jay Hanson in me expects nothing less.
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FourOfSwords

Coal is King. Always has been, always will be...till we choke on the sulphurous air we're gonna breath. Sad

Alex

KingDavid

We are, like allways, indecisive. The socs, the greens and the free markists planned (2001) to close the nuke-plants beginning in 2015. Thus windmillparks were going to be build in the Nordsea (2 of them should be around 300 megawatt production). The construction has been delayed and delayed, now the fully operational park should be online in 2016. So the new gov (flemish: free markists, catholics and walloons: free markists, catholics and socs) wants the nucleair plants to remain open for a longer time (now 57% of our elektricity usage has a nucleair origin). And some economists are screaming for more n-plants in the future. So i guess we will go nucleair, but as the last of the class. Belgium is like the fat kid that can't keep up.......
The only solution is a great powerdown but no one wants to here that dreadful word.

Cabrone

If you are expecting Europe to lead the way then you may as well go and crawl into the oven now.

Anyway we're pretty well screwed now whatever happens so you may aswell enjoy the party while it lasts.

Anyone for popcorn?

Ainan · Heavy Crude Joined: Feb 18, 2008 Posts: 208

Plantagenet

EnergyUnlimited · Fission Joined: May 15, 2006 Posts: 2989

Germans must build more coal fired plants as a backup to unreliable wind capacity.
That means, more windmill capacity equals more coal fired plants until coal last.

NB. It will be a clean coal.
They will be washing every bit with detergent, before burning it up. Very Happy

Ludi