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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Will deer eat tomato or string bean plants before fruiting? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I am expanding my garden due to the recent deteriorating economy and PO issues. My main garden is fenced and not an issue. I don't time to build a fence right now around my new expansion for a month or so.

If I pant tomatoes or sting beans will deer eat the plants before they produce fruit?

What other crops are deer safe before producing their crop?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Will deer eat tomato or string bean plants before fruiti Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Now here is a weired lesson I learned about hot peppers and deer.

We lived in the Sierra foothills and planted a row of peppers. we had a tall fence but the buggers got in anyway. They mowed the tops of the fairly tall peppers down to about 20 inches I guess.

Every branch they bit back fruited like nothing I've ever seen, I've always pruned the tops of my peppers since.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Will deer eat tomato or string bean plants before fruiti Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Pops wrote:
Now here is a weired lesson I learned about hot peppers and deer.

We lived in the Sierra foothills and planted a row of peppers. we had a tall fence but the buggers got in anyway. They mowed the tops of the fairly tall peppers down to about 20 inches I guess.

Every branch they bit back fruited like nothing I've ever seen, I've always pruned the tops of my peppers since.



That's good to know! Maybe the deer were also practicing conservation by not mowing them down to the ground?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Will deer eat tomato or string bean plants before fruiti Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Deer will keep the beans mowed down to the ground if you don't protect them, if you have lots of deer. I would swear that the momma deer bring the fawns to our garden to teach them what beans are. They don't seem to bother our tomatoes, or much else in the garden other than lettuce, except that they run through the garden and knock stuff over and trample plants. But deer seem to behave differently in different areas, and prefer different crops.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Will deer eat tomato or string bean plants before fruiti Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The deer (Whitetail and Axis) here (Central Texas) will mow down virtually anything they can reach. We are very overpopulated with deer.

I fence everything I don't want eaten.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Will deer eat tomato or string bean plants before fruiti Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

WisJim wrote:
They don't seem to bother our tomatoes, ..

Ah yea! I remember; tomato, pepper and potato are all members of the nightshade family.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanaceae

I also ran into this funny site (ranked above Wikipedia)
http://www.tomatoesareevil.com/tomatohealth.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Will deer eat tomato or string bean plants before fruiti Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Pops wrote:
Ah yea! I remember; tomato, pepper and potato are all members of the nightshade family.


Does that mean you find the deer dead next to your plants? If so, can you eat them?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Will deer eat tomato or string bean plants before fruiti Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Consider deer eating your veggies a good thing. My brother specifically plants crops that attract deer and elk on our land so that we can use them for food in the future.

I would plant clover and let the deer go wild and once every few months take a deer for food.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Will deer eat tomato or string bean plants before fruiti Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

smallpoxgirl wrote:
Pops wrote:
Ah yea! I remember; tomato, pepper and potato are all members of the nightshade family.


Does that mean you find the deer dead next to your plants? If so, can you eat them?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: Will deer eat tomato or string bean plants before fruiti Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

We haven't had a problem with deer eating our beans, since there are so many fields of soybeans that they prefer. The cost of crop loss to deer is high, due to overpopulation.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:50 am    Post subject: Re: Will deer eat tomato or string bean plants before fruiti Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Last year was our worst ever regarding deer damage. I trellis our tomatoes, some getting up +4'. The deer went in and mowed off the tops every so often.

To make matters worse, once the plants started producing, they ate almost ripe tomatoes. A first for us!

Tried hanging tin pans with washers attached by fishing line (for noise) around the entire 12,000 cf plot but to no avail.

Am looking at picking up some of those garlic dispensers and giving them a try this year.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: Will deer eat tomato or string bean plants before fruiti Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

patience wrote:
The cost of crop loss to deer is high, due to overpopulation.


Seems like folks could be eating the deer!

People hunt here, but not enough to keep the deer population within bounds. But one benefit of so many deer is the mountain lions are returning. Of course people will freak out and insist on killing the mountain lions -"they'll attack our livestock and children!" - even though mountain lions would much rather eat deer than livestock or children.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:38 am    Post subject: Re: Will deer eat tomato or string bean plants before fruiti Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

You know, it's funny, but I've never had a problem with deer or rabbits bothering my garden. I don't have a fence around it either. I've always wondered why that is but I cannot understand it. It's not for lack of deer and rabbits either.

When I cut hay next to the garden rabbits are everywhere and yet I don't see any damage. I never see deer near the house and barn so perhaps they are just timid that way. I do have a crap load of deer in the woods but none come up to bother my garden. Must be crap luck I guess.

I did have a problem with a raccoon eating some corn last year, come to think of it but it was only one time on one plant.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: Will deer eat tomato or string bean plants before fruiti Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ludi wrote:
But one benefit of so many deer is the mountain lions are returning. Of course people will freak out and insist on killing the mountain lions -"they'll attack our livestock and children!" - even though mountain lions would much rather eat deer than livestock or children.


Don't encourage mountain lions. In the late 90s our family ranch had a big problem with mountain lions. Prior to that we rarely had problems with mountain lions attacking our cattle.

The lion population was increasing in our area and then we had several years where we had very little rain. The deer and elk began moving out of the high country to lower elevations seeking vegetation/water and the mountain lions followed.

The lions apparently were struggling to find enough food and became quite bold. We lost several calves and one horse due to lion attacks. Our ranch hands were able to shoot 2 lions and turned them into the New Mexico Dept of Game and Fish. There was also 2 cowhands from other ranches that were attacked while riding their horses. They were seperate attacks at different times and different places.

That same drought our ranch hands also killed a black bear that destroyed a barn door to get to the feed blocks we had stored.

Lions also attack people on bicycles, joggers, and people walking their dog. This happens every year in Orange County, CA and Albquerque, NM.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: Will deer eat tomato or string bean plants before fruiti Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

joeltrout wrote:

Lions also attack people on bicycles, joggers, and people walking their dog.


In mountain lion territory.


I can't personally encourage or discourage mountain lions. But they used to live here and I'm glad they're coming back.
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