Hoarding is exactly what the government is doing right now by filling the SPR, and frankly it's the best thing that could happen. It drives prices up. High prices encourage demand destruction. They also finance new well development. The hoarded oil gives us a buffer to fall back on once shortages become more prevalent. High prices are what we need in order to adapt to what's coming, and the sooner they happen, the better.
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:53 am Post subject: Re: Spring Weather 2008
Tanada wrote:
WildRose wrote:
April 20th - SNOW - Stop, please, stop! It looks like Christmas here, and we're wearing our winter coats and boots again.
Meanwhile here on the Lake Eire coast we have hit 70+ with sunshine four of the last seven days and were in the mid sixties the other three. We flipped straight from winter to summer, we had snow two weeks ago fer crying out loud!
Pretty strange, eh! You guys had a lot of snow this past winter - did it take long for it to melt? I remember that many years ago, we would have long periods of melting, rubber-boot weather - now the weather changes so quickly.
Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3278 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:44 am Post subject: Re: Spring Weather 2008
WildRose wrote:
Tanada wrote:
WildRose wrote:
April 20th - SNOW - Stop, please, stop! It looks like Christmas here, and we're wearing our winter coats and boots again.
Meanwhile here on the Lake Eire coast we have hit 70+ with sunshine four of the last seven days and were in the mid sixties the other three. We flipped straight from winter to summer, we had snow two weeks ago fer crying out loud!
Pretty strange, eh! You guys had a lot of snow this past winter - did it take long for it to melt? I remember that many years ago, we would have long periods of melting, rubber-boot weather - now the weather changes so quickly.
The whole months of February and March were screwy as was the start of April, we would get a big snow fall, then a week or so later it would warm into the 40 and rain followed a day or so later by another big snow fall. As a result the white stuff got piled fairly deep around parking lots and such. Just as the last of that was going away for good we got a rain/snow mixed percipitation mess, but that snow only lasted until the next morning. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 5814 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:21 am Post subject: Re: Spring Weather 2008
Meanwhile, does anyone know what's going on with our long-running La Nina? Is it fading? If so, what's next? _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Spring Weather 2008
Heineken wrote:
Meanwhile, does anyone know what's going on with our long-running La Nina? Is it fading? If so, what's next?
It is fading right now, but off of fairly potent levels, so the La Nina is still well intact. Most forecasts have a weak Nina into Fall. Could make hurricane season interesting.
Joined: Jun 30, 2005 Posts: 567 Location: northern California
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: Spring Weather 2008
From one dam fool to another: "Way to go, Heineken!" We might have had 3" of precip here since October, all told. It did snow another inch last night. Yesterday the maximum temperature was 25 degrees below normal (39), the prediction is for temps 10 degrees above normal for this weekend. Spring begins here mid-May, summer begins the 3rd week in May. _________________ "Not how is the idea expressed...is the question, but how far it has obtained form and expression in the life of the artist"
H. D. Thoreau
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 5814 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:15 am Post subject: Re: Spring Weather 2008
You are indeed a stranger in a strange land, dunewalker. I envy you your alien solitude.
Not sure I could live without trees, though. They're sort of sewn into my DNA. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
Joined: Jun 30, 2005 Posts: 567 Location: northern California
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:40 am Post subject: Re: Spring Weather 2008
Yet another snowstorm predicted for tonight, the third in a week. Too bad they don't add up to much. Ironically, the 4th largest Lodgepole Pine in California is only10 miles from here, as the Raven flies. The world record Washoe Pine is even closer. A candidate for the largest Western White Pine in the world is within 30 miles. In this country, elevation means everything. The low temperatures of my neighbor who lives about 2 1/2 miles away are consistently 10 to 12 degrees higher than here, every calm day. _________________ "Not how is the idea expressed...is the question, but how far it has obtained form and expression in the life of the artist"
H. D. Thoreau
Joined: May 10, 2007 Posts: 2449 Location: The Entropisphere
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: Re: Spring Weather 2008
Yesterday I covered up the sensitive plants because there was a prediction of 31 degrees and some spitting snow. Right now it is 31 but the snow is coming down in large flakes and starting to accumulate on the ground I put a lot of things in the ground that I wasn't ready to plant because they had arrived from the nursery in the mail and our cats have a tendency to raid anything that isn't cactus...
Now I can just worry.
It has been a cold wet spring. This is a neutral event since it has meant that I have not yet had to carry water up to the trees. It has also bought me a little bit of time to get ready for planting the garden... unfortunatley I have to go out in the cold and the wet to get it done.
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 5814 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:00 am Post subject: Re: Spring Weather 2008
The rain keeps coming down here. Inches of it. The drought is becoming a bad memory . . .
Three tornadoes yesterday in Virginia. I drove through the line of weather that spawned them. The rain was so heavy I almost had to pull off the road.
We'll have a brief warm-up and dry-out, then it's back to more rain.
First real spring we've had here in years. Cool and wet and cloudy, with only a smattering of hot days. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Spring Weather 2008
A week and a half ago it looked like mid-January in central Alberta. Now, we have temps of 15 Celsius and the snow is all but gone, the grass is starting to green and there are actually buds on the local hedges and bushes, which I thought would be put back by the cold and snow we had a couple weeks ago. If the temperatures stay up, we may be able to plant in May after all.
Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 6350 Location: My Grandkids' Farm
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:25 am Post subject: Re: Spring Weather 2008
Last night there were frost warnings and record lows across southern Mo - two years in a row with freezing temps at the time of fruit blossom... _________________ Make a plan and work it:
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:46 am Post subject: Re: Spring Weather 2008
Irritatingly cold here STILL! I can't plant a damn thing because we are still hitting the twenties at night. Finally came back up a bit into the thirties last night but forecast is for twenties again by Thurs night with raging wind for wed and thurs (base wind of 30+ ) And REALLY DRY. Single digit humidity with way below normal precip all winter. Looks like they finally got the 5000 acre fire under control near here but we'll see after Thurs...
-G _________________ All right, you primitive screw-heads, listen up!
Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3278 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: Re: Spring Weather 2008
Its insane, two weeks ago it was 65+ for daytime highs, last week was 75+, this week is 55+ and we have a frost advisory for tonight! _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov
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I put a lot of things in the ground that I wasn't ready to plant because they had arrived from the nursery in the mail and our cats have a tendency to raid anything that isn't cactus...
) And REALLY DRY. Single digit humidity with way below normal precip all winter. Looks like they finally got the 5000 acre fire under control near here but we'll see after Thurs...
