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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Transfer from TOD Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I view all 3 of the main blogs on this subject at least every other day. Like everything else, I weigh what I read. I look for something to be optimistic about, but I reject fantasy
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Transfer from TOD Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Pops, I do love you. Not in the man-love way, in the really-appreciate-the-information way. I've been here a long time. I got kicked with the password thing a bit back because I couldn't remember my email log in.

Either you or seahorse, several months back, advised stocking food. Great advice. Taken.

Now you see food riots breaking out in the "3rd world". It's just a matter of time.

I don't happen to cotton the newb, who has already labeled a colleague a "denialist". Bad form, IMO. I'll leave it at that.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Transfer from TOD Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cashmere wrote:
Man caused GW is far from proven.


true. you would almost need 2 earths to prove it.

fossil fuel combustion (water & carbon dioxide, though people mostly talk about the latter) - what effect do you think it's having on the climate ? if you've read a bunch then i was just curious.

by the time it's proven, we'll be, well, older, maybe a lot older.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:20 am    Post subject: Re: Transfer from TOD Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

PF - what can I say?

I think man contributes to GW. I'm not sure how much.

It may be one of those things where any cure we attempt to apply is worse than the cure.

It's entirely possible, and not unreasonable, that some or much of observable climate change would have happened whether we were here or not.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:12 am    Post subject: Re: Transfer from TOD Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cashmere wrote:
PF - what can I say?

I think man contributes to GW. I'm not sure how much.

It may be one of those things where any cure we attempt to apply is worse than the cure.

It's entirely possible, and not unreasonable, that some or much of observable climate change would have happened whether we were here or not.
Man contributes. Isn't that all you need in order to accept responsibility? Otherwise you must be positing a God to blame.

How can shutting off the lights, downsizing, walking more, installing windmills and electric trains be "worse than the cure." How can living lighter on a limited planet earth be a problem. How can using less, reducing pollution, cleaning up the rivers and oceans and air be a problem?

"Worse than the cure." I do not understand this. Are you referring to biofuels and their consequent limitations and problems? Or are you an anti-environmentalist?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Transfer from TOD Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

When the thin ice melts up north this year people will long for the days when they could have denied GW.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Transfer from TOD Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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When the thin ice melts up north this year people will long for the days when they could have denied GW.
Every denier will be remembered by someone. There will be justice but no reward.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Transfer from TOD Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cashmere wrote:
Like I said, not too late to go back.

In your words, I am a "denialist".

In my words, go f--k yourself.

Man caused GW is far from proven, whether or not it is the best current theory, and calling people "deniers" is unintelligent and juvenile.


Thank god we have true and strong patriots like you standing up against those elite climatologists/paleoclimatologists and their peer reviewed research.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Transfer from TOD Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

It used to be "peer reviewed" research. Now, because of assholes like Al Gore and nazis like the people posting here, it's more "peer pressured" than peer reviewed.

You people are hysterical.

Anybody questions you, and you hold up your arm and scream, "denier".


The cure could be worse than the disease because there will come a day when some idiot like Al Gore suggests altering the atmosphere directly.


The only good thing I can say about global warming nazis like those running around this board is that, as a group, they have about 1/10th normal testosterone levels so they hardly pose a threat like the Nazis of yesteryear.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:48 am    Post subject: Re: Transfer from TOD Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cashmere wrote:
You people are hysterical.

Anybody questions you, and you hold up your arm and scream, "denier".

The cure could be worse than the disease because there will come a day when some idiot like Al Gore suggests altering the atmosphere directly.


If you want to question the science, that's fine but I don't see you debating the issue with Dissident on the threads. I see you insanely rambling about Al Gore which has nothing to do with heat capacity of the ocean, the absorption properities of CO2, etc....

Deniers are like a disease that infects society with misinformation based on a political or economic agenda. That's why I refuse to visit TOD, not because someone was questioning science but because they were furthering the economic agenda of oil companies and hurting the future of humankind in return.
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