How then, do we move backwards? How does a society, with most of the people having no clue of future events, move from being dependent on a vast and intertwined network of goods and services produced by the indigenous people of whereever, to a local resource and renewable energy based society, and do so in the timeframe available (20-30 years using the most liberal extimates, 10-20 with resonable estimates, 5-10 with worst case scenarios), all the while prices on everything increasing, world politics getting more militaristic, governments continuously reducing civil liberties, shortages of goods on the market and weather patterns resembling bad Hollywood movies?
Real GDP has been revealed today as 0.6% for Q4 and same for Q1. This confirms the "above 0" status as shown by his coincident indicator chart as posted last month and updated Monday.
But I feel your pain, Dude. The Q4/Q1 and its five monthly production records have shamed McPeaksters for yet another year. The twentieth in-a-row if anyone is counting!
Would the integrity of the gov't stats be doubted if they showed "-0.6" today? Methinx not... _________________ www.TrendLines.ca/scenarios.htm Home of the Real Peak Date ... set by geologists (not pundits)
I think I will use the money towards a greenhouse and/or towards another carport (with gutters) to increase my rainwater collection shadow for the pecan trees I want to plant along the driveway. _________________ About my avatar: A glassy sphere and a mineral particle magnified 1500 times using a scanning electron microscope.
Would the integrity of the gov't stats be doubted if they showed "-0.6" today? Methinx not...
FreddyH (174 posts) or Last Viking (81 posts) - I'm not sure which handle you prefer as you both post from the same IP...
At any rate, what is/ are your plans for your Stimulus check - that was my original question if you (two) remember? _________________ Make a plan and work it:
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:34 am Post subject: Re: "Stimulus"
Keith,
I don't think it's free. We'll be paying for it in the future, but making the best of it in the great US tradition, I've already spent it!
Actually, we took money from savings with the refund in mind, and put $800 into a good used garden tractor, and $175 for ALL the service manuals for it. $178 for a tandem load of stone on our driveway, $350 for a new LP gas stove, $50 for gas pipe and fittings. A couple gallons of denatured alcohol to treat my stored gas for water condensation, 84 RR ties at $10,25 each for a garden retaining wall. 4 cases of dry mac & cheese, repacked in baggies and frozen to kill any bugs. Some canned black olives on sale at 5/$6. By the time I get some spare oil, spark plugs, plug wires, and filters for the tractor, that will use up the refund.
We got a tax break for our solar PV investment last year, too. That will help fill the 500 gallon LP tank. (cooking use only, probably 10 years worth.) _________________ Local fix-it guy..
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: Re: "Stimulus"
Pops wrote:
FreddyH wrote:
Pops wrote:
All great government stats, LV.
Would the integrity of the gov't stats be doubted if they showed "-0.6" today? Methinx not...
FreddyH (174 posts) or Last Viking (81 posts) - I'm not sure which handle you prefer as you both post from the same IP...
At any rate, what is/ are your plans for your Stimulus check - that was my original question if you (two) remember?
I had thought they must be the same person but didn't know how to check it out... nice to know. Of course I guess well just have to wait until the next incarnation makes itself known now that this one has been outed. _________________ Ring them bells St. Peter
Where the four winds blow,
Ring them bells with an iron hand
So the people will know.
Oh it's rush hour now
On the wheel and the plow
And the sun is going down
Upon the sacred cow.
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: "Stimulus"
This is sort of like in Europe...many "EVIL SOCIALIST" countries give money every month to families from the time the fetus is 3 months along til 16 I think. Well, this is a little bit like that!
The money at our house is going toward the mortgage payoff....If we stick to plan, we'll have this mortgage behind us by next Thanksgiving!
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: "Stimulus"
mommy22 wrote:
This is sort of like in Europe...many "EVIL SOCIALIST" countries give money every month to families from the time the fetus is 3 months along til 16 I think. Well, this is a little bit like that!
The money at our house is going toward the mortgage payoff....If we stick to plan, we'll have this mortgage behind us by next Thanksgiving!
Well, I don't live in an 'evil socialist' country so much as a 'filthy capitalist' country, and I was just yesterday given 4K for breeding. That's right folks, $4000 dollars for having a child.
Now that's 'stimulus'!
Not surprisingly, they call it the 'baby bonus'. Motivation to breed new tax payers.
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