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yesplease
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 Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: Gasoline use down 4.5% in the state of fruits and nuts |
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Stolen from EM which was stolen from GCC. Damn hippies! 
| Quote: | | California consumed 4.5% less gasoline, including aviation gas, in January 2008 than in January 2007, according to figures released by the State Board of Equalization (BOE). The BOE is able to monitor gallons through tax receipts paid by fuel distributors. |
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| Quote: | | For all of 2007, Californians used nearly 1 percent less gasoline compared to the previous year. Californians used a total of 15.672 billon gallons of gasoline for the twelve months of 2007, which is a decline of 153 million gallons from the total of 15.825 billon gallons for the calendar year 2006. Gasoline consumption has fallen for two years in a row. |
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:50 am Post subject: Re: Gasoline use down 4.5% in the state of fruits and nuts |
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Actually they used about 1% less and paid about 4.5% less in tax revenue, which means someone somewhere is using tax free gasoline and the State will now be looking for them
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misterno
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 10:49 am Post subject: Re: Gasoline use down 4.5% in the state of fruits and nuts |
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| Maybe the population of CA went down. |
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Mquinon3
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:49 am Post subject: Re: Gasoline use down 4.5% in the state of fruits and nuts |
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| I"m very very vey skeptical with all the numbers coming out now about reduced gasoline consumption. Many of these groups no if they tout less gasoline consumption it results in an immediate drop in gas price in the markets. Then when you really take a look at the numbers you see that the drop in demand is no nearly as much as they announce. For example, the drop in demand between Feb. and january of this year. The media jumped all over that for a day without even taking into account there are less days in February. |
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yesplease
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Gasoline use down 4.5% in the state of fruits and nuts |
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| Tanada wrote: | | Actually they used about 1% less and paid about 4.5% less in tax revenue, which means someone somewhere is using tax free gasoline and the State will now be looking for them |
The 1% is the entire yoy and IIRC is the difference between 06/07 and 07/08. The 4.5% drop is the difference between January this year and January last year, with revenue going up thanks to the price increase. | Quote: | | Despite the drop in gallons consumed, the BOE estimates that sales tax revenue has increased due to higher gasoline prices. Higher prices generated approximately $299 million in sales tax during January 2008. In contrast, January 2007’s gasoline sales generated $249 million. |
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yesplease
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Gasoline use down 4.5% in the state of fruits and nuts |
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| Mquinon3 wrote: | | I"m very very vey skeptical with all the numbers coming out now about reduced gasoline consumption. Many of these groups no if they tout less gasoline consumption it results in an immediate drop in gas price in the markets. Then when you really take a look at the numbers you see that the drop in demand is no nearly as much as they announce. |
Click here. In January 2007 1,292,710,373 gallons were consumed, and in January 2008 1,234,472,901 gallons were consumed. Not funny stuff by comparing one month with 31 days and another with 28 days. 
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heroineworshipper
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Gasoline use down 4.5% in the state of fruits and nuts |
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More people R getting gas in Mexico & Nevada to avoid the taxes.
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Pops
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Gasoline use down 4.5% in the state of fruits and nuts |
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Susan's nephew drives truck on the west coast and paid $4.40/gal for fuel on a run to Idaho.
CA leads....
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yesplease
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: Gasoline use down 4.5% in the state of fruits and nuts |
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| heroineworshipper wrote: | | More people R getting gas in Mexico & Nevada to avoid the taxes. |
Unless they were had a private tanker to fill a private location I think it would be prohibitively expensive. The population centers in CA are pretty far away from AZ/NV/Mexico, and even for the towns on the border, for instance people from Blythe, CA going to Quartzsite, AZ, they would need to travel a significant distance, in this case forty miles round trip to save about half a buck per gallon, so for the average twenty gallon tank/20mpg vehicle, saving a few bucks per tank probably isn't worth spending nearly an extra hour doing so. Granted, people in these places could fill up large tanks to see some savings, but I doubt they're doing it in force because a large tank for gasoline isn't exactly cheap unless someone happens to have one lying around, and is a big target for thieves.
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Pops
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Gasoline use down 4.5% in the state of fruits and nuts |
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| heroineworshipper wrote: | | More people R getting gas in Mexico & Nevada .... |
A common misconception in SoCal and pretty well everywhere else is that SoCal IS CA.
They do raise few fruits and nuts down there though...
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: Gasoline use down 4.5% in the state of fruits and nuts |
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| Pops wrote: | | heroineworshipper wrote: | | More people R getting gas in Mexico & Nevada .... |
A common misconception in SoCal and pretty well everywhere else is that SoCal IS CA.
They do raise few fruits and nuts down there though... |
People have no idea of the size and complexity of California because they look at politically-generated Mercator projections rather than globes. It's the 3rd largest state in the Union. Where I live north of San Fransisco is about the size of the entire state of Georgia and has fewer people than Atlanta's suburbs. We supply a lot of America's milk, timber, and fish. People need to get out more. You're welcome to come visit anytime, but you probably couldn't get here from there. 
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Pops
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Gasoline use down 4.5% in the state of fruits and nuts |
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| pstarr wrote: | | You're welcome to come visit anytime, but you probably couldn't get here from there. |
Yea, not until the traffic slacks off some p.
I think I may have mentioned before Hayfork and thereabouts seemed good to me.
I am becoming somewhat used to the new surroundings here though.
As a recent acquaintance opined when I commented on the mountains around where I grew up in Cent. Ca:
Those hills sure is purdy, but what do ya do with 'em?
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shortonoil
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: Gasoline use down 4.5% in the state of fruits and nuts |
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Pops said:
| Quote: | | Those hills sure is purdy, but what do ya do with 'em? |
You could mine them if the state would let you. There is gold, silver, copper, nickel, and structural stones. Try to get enough water to run processing operations. Forget it, I tried. |
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fletch_961
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 12:54 am Post subject: Re: Gasoline use down 4.5% in the state of fruits and nuts |
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| Quote: | | People have no idea of the size and complexity of California because they look at politically-generated Mercator projections rather than globes. |
politically-generated mercator projections?
Well, of course. And darn well time somebody exposed those folks in Delaware for pulling off the biggest conspiracy in history!!!!!
I mean those couple extra degrees of latitude had me thinking Rhode Island was the size of Florida  .
Fruits and nuts. |
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mos6507
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: Gasoline use down 4.5% in the state of fruits and nuts |
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| misterno wrote: | | Maybe the population of CA went down. |
Yeah, if the housing crunch sent some of the illegal construction workers packing. |
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