Joined: Sep 25, 2005 Posts: 1547 Location: Waiuku, New Zealand
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:18 am Post subject: Re: Uranium Supply
yesplease wrote:
TonyPrep wrote:
yesplease wrote:
TonyPrep wrote:
You said "accurately", yesplease. Sorry for adding the redundant part, "100%".
How is 100% redundant? Accuracy means
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the degree of correctness of a quantity, expression, etc.
Once again, yesplease, you said "accurately" - "free from error". I thought you were fixated on correct English but it seems not.
Accuracy has different definitions.
To help you research your error, yesplease, this is where you used the word "accurately", not "accuracy". It is the former word that you need to look up the meaning of. Have fun. (BTW, to ease the pain, I admit that, with the word "accuracy", "100%" was not redundant, though it was used in relation to your use of "accurately").
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:33 am Post subject: Re: Uranium Supply
Oh! Ya got me. Coulda sworn it was accuracy, but hey, certainly isn't the first time I've been wrong. So, for the record, I meant the definition I posted and wrote something that I didn't mean.
That being said, I'm still waiting for your explanation Miss Cleo, on how you have a high degree of confidence in predicting what will happen to the human race billions of years from now.
TonyPrep wrote:
Do you know how long the human species will last? Of course you don't, nor do I. So we shouldn't put any time limit on it, though we know that it can't outlast the solar system.
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Jack English wrote:
What's the worst that could happen? We flood some cities, and destroy the food chain? Learn to swim, and eat fucking rocks people. Swim, and eat rocks.
Joined: Sep 25, 2005 Posts: 1547 Location: Waiuku, New Zealand
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:16 am Post subject: Re: Uranium Supply
yesplease wrote:
That being said, I'm still waiting for your explanation Miss Cleo, on how you have a high degree of confidence in predicting what will happen to the human race billions of years from now.
TonyPrep wrote:
Do you know how long the human species will last? Of course you don't, nor do I. So we shouldn't put any time limit on it, though we know that it can't outlast the solar system.
In case Miss Cleo doesn't answer, let me try my take.
Not many species have lasted billions of years. Chances are, the human species won't either. If is does, then it would have to have moved to the outer planets by the time the sun expands to consume the earth. As there are currently no other habitable planets in the solar system, humans would have to terraform some outer planet or build artificial habitats that can maintain a viable human population. Humans would also have to figure out how to survive a surfeit of solar energy as it expands to a red giant. Then they would have to manage on a lot less as it collapsed to a white dwarf. In the meantime, all sorts of solar related catastrophes have to be overcome, as well as keeping their fingers crossed that they manage to stay in orbit. Eventually the sun will become a stellar corpse so any humans left will have had to find other means of sustenance well before then. This involves travelling many light years to the closest star systems and hoping that at least one planet is habitable, that there are enough humans left (after generations of travel without any significant input of energy) to be able to build a new habitat and procreate.
Of course, there is a chance that these things could happen, but when you start to multiply the probabilities (we haven't shown any ability to do any of this beyond a nearby small capsule with supplies shipped from earth, so, at this point, the probability of any one event is small) you end up with a very small probability indeed.
Now, remember, yesplease, this is not a scientific paper. This is conversational English. Of course we don't know the probabilities' exact magnitude, except that they are less than 1. It won't take many required successes to get the total probability trending to zero.
So I have a high degree of confidence that the human species won't survive the demise of the solar system.
If you were asked the question: "do you think the human species will outlast the solar system" and you couldn't say "I don't know" or "I don't have enough information to accurately predict that", what would you say?
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:59 am Post subject: Re: Uranium Supply
TonyPrep wrote:
Of course, there is a chance that these things could happen, but when you start to multiply the probabilities (we haven't shown any ability to do any of this beyond a nearby small capsule with supplies shipped from earth, so, at this point, the probability of any one event is small) you end up with a very small probability indeed.
So what (roughly) are those probabilities over the next ~billion years?
TonyPrep wrote:
Now, remember, yesplease, this is not a scientific paper. This is conversational English.
How horrible it would be for you to use science, logic, or math instead of conversational English, which you are clearly quite good at as we can see from these statements in the same post, ironically enough.
TonyPrep wrote:
I am also perfectly able to use the English language properly
TonyPrep wrote:
yesplease, you're post count is over a thousand.
TonyPrep wrote:
Of course we don't know the probabilities' exact magnitude, except that they are less than 1. It won't take many required successes to get the total probability trending to zero.
Roughly speaking, not exactly, since you don't seem to like such things, what are those probabilities?
TonyPrep wrote:
If you were asked the question: "do you think the human species will outlast the solar system" and you couldn't say "I don't know" or "I don't have enough information to accurately predict that", what would you say?
"No se" pendejito! TonyPrep, if you were asked the question: "do you think the human species will outlast the solar system" and you couldn't say anything except for "purple", what would you say? C'mon d00d, no one put a gun to your head and forced you to say this batshitcrazy stuff, and constructing scenarios where others can't say they "don't know" to validate your PO psychic hotline only makes you seem nuttier. _________________
Jack English wrote:
What's the worst that could happen? We flood some cities, and destroy the food chain? Learn to swim, and eat fucking rocks people. Swim, and eat rocks.
Joined: Sep 25, 2005 Posts: 1547 Location: Waiuku, New Zealand
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:20 am Post subject: Re: Uranium Supply
yesplease, dragging up one typo from all the posts we've shared is pathetic. However, I should be honoured that you kept that little gem from me. They are rare, after all, and should be worth a lot, some day.
However, it shows that you aren't serious about discussions here, so I will decline to answer your question; not that it was seriously asked, anyway.
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:43 am Post subject: Re: Uranium Supply
TonyPrep wrote:
yesplease, dragging up one typo from all the posts we've shared is pathetic. However, I should be honoured that you kept that little gem from me. They are rare, after all, and should be worth a lot, some day.
Hey meng, I'm just bringing up an instance of your conversational English, which you were talking about. I don't see how it's off topic. Remember, don't shoot the messenger! In any event, I don't think those little gems will be worth the electrons they're sent on given how many other gaffs I've seen on your end, the latest example being how you "know" the future of the human species.
TonyPrep wrote:
However, it shows that you aren't serious about discussions here, so I will decline to answer your question; not that it was seriously asked, anyway.
Unlike you, who are serious about your claim to "know" what will happen to the human species in the future? C'mon... If I thought for a second you were interested in any serious discussion of anything I'd be up for it, but all you seem to do is "know" that others "imply" stuff they don't literally write, while "interpreting" the writings of those you seem fond of in a favorable way, regardless of what they literally wrote. _________________
Jack English wrote:
What's the worst that could happen? We flood some cities, and destroy the food chain? Learn to swim, and eat fucking rocks people. Swim, and eat rocks.
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