Hoarding is exactly what the government is doing right now by filling the SPR, and frankly it's the best thing that could happen. It drives prices up. High prices encourage demand destruction. They also finance new well development. The hoarded oil gives us a buffer to fall back on once shortages become more prevalent. High prices are what we need in order to adapt to what's coming, and the sooner they happen, the better.
Joined: May 10, 2007 Posts: 2449 Location: The Entropisphere
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:15 am Post subject: Re: My Doom Meter has Been off the charts . . .
Cashmere wrote:
Heiniken - I might have unconsciously lifted your title!
Anyway, in terms of Internet etiquette, a thread hijacking only can occur within a thread.
It's like you're accusing me of hijacking your car - because I'm driving the same make and model and yelling the same thing out of the window.
Maybe I hijacked your look or your mojo, but not your thread.
In any case, merge, don't merge, I don't really care either way. I'm way too doomerish right now to consider it.
On a separate note, why are people so concerned with duplicative threads?
What harm could there possibly be in leaving a second thread of this nature that overlaps the content of another thread?
It's not like this is a rip off of Best of Montequest's sticky.
1. It keeps people from posting on the wrong thread if they get the two confused.
2. It frees the need for the same arguments or observations to be made more than once
3. It cuts down on the amount of clicking and looking one needs to do
4. It is good manners not to hijack anything, thread or title. There is always a need for manners. Even when one is doomy, even on the internet, even in the world as it will become.
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: Re: My Doom Meter has Been off the charts . . .
Depression is a consequence of self-involvement. We were designed by our genes to care for the tribe. The existence of such threads and the concern for ownership is a symptom of underlying conditions.
Maybe you Cashmere and Heiniken need to hug more _________________ ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap
Joined: Jun 30, 2005 Posts: 567 Location: northern California
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:50 am Post subject: Re: My Doom Meter has Been off the charts . . .
hippiema1 wrote:
Last night my 9yo, who has heard a lot in the background from us and from other folks in the neighborhood, broke into tears about how scared he was for the future (because of climate change, peak oil, hunger, wars and violence, injustice and oppression, and--as he says--"economic collapse") and about how awful humans are to have done this to the world.
While I want him to know about what is going on to a certain degree, I feel awful that he has picked up enough that he is this frightened. Trying to put on a happier, more confident face in front of him seems like what we need to do for a while. But this makes it even harder to manage my own emotions.
I think this is what Buzzard meant with his statement: "when hope is lost, action may ensue". If you really believe the future will be as bad as your son is hearing you say it will be, then giving him false hope will only inhibit his ability to deal with his own future. Once he realizes the truth in what you say, he can let go of the paradigm we so desperately cling to, and "deal with reality before it deals with him", to paraphrase our chimp who can drive... _________________ "Not how is the idea expressed...is the question, but how far it has obtained form and expression in the life of the artist"
H. D. Thoreau
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:13 am Post subject: Re: My Doom Meter has Been off the charts . . .
I'll hug heiniken - hands above the waist.
somebody wrote:
1. It keeps people from posting on the wrong thread if they get the two confused.
2. It frees the need for the same arguments or observations to be made more than once
3. It cuts down on the amount of clicking and looking one needs to do
4. It is good manners not to hijack anything, thread or title. There is always a need for manners. Even when one is doomy, even on the internet, even in the world as it will become.
1. Is this really a problem? You have a "my threads" link on your main page. Frankly, if you can't figure out which threads you've already posted in, you've got bigger issues than thread hijacking.
2. There's no need to post at all - it's all by volition as far as I can see.
3. Your own argument cuts against you here. If there a duplicative threads, it's more likely somebody finds one of them. In any case, is this really a problem?
4. I agree it is good manners. Of course, hijacking requires some concept of wrongdoing.
It's the difference between saying, "your husband looks like actor X," not knowing that the wife thinks actor X is unattractive, and saying "your wife looks like Roseanne Barr", being well aware that an offense has been delivered.
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: My Doom Meter has Been off the charts . . .
Thank you. I think the fact that he is only barely nine years old has got to make him feel pretty powerless sometimes--and you are really right. Action, of course, is something that will help us address our practical needs, but it is also something we need for emotional reasons. One of the things he said last night during our conversation, in fact, was: "I really want to DO something--something bigger than anything we have already done." So clearly he is already identifying with what you mean!
dunewalker wrote:
I think this is what Buzzard meant with his statement: "when hope is lost, action may ensue". If you really believe the future will be as bad as your son is hearing you say it will be, then giving him false hope will only inhibit his ability to deal with his own future. Once he realizes the truth in what you say, he can let go of the paradigm we so desperately cling to, and "deal with reality before it deals with him", to paraphrase our chimp who can drive...
Joined: Jan 02, 2008 Posts: 367 Location: out dispatching ronan...
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: My Doom Meter has Been off the charts . . .
vision-master wrote:
I hear a very gentle sound
Very near, yet very far
Very soft, yeah, very clear
he he
What have they done to the Earth, yeah
What have they done to our fair sister?
Ravaged and plundered and ripped her and bit her
Stuck her with knives in the side of the dawn,
And tied her with fences and dragged her down.
Joined: Sep 16, 2007 Posts: 1001 Location: Oklahoma City, USA
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: My Doom Meter has Been off the charts . . .
jlw61 wrote:
Then there are articles like this that start spelling out the preps being made by TPTB. Simply put, government is getting its ducks in a row in anticipation of these events.
That's called triage, SOP in a major disaster. _________________ What, so I'm in no end game
Move my piece right off the board
Joined: Sep 03, 2007 Posts: 560 Location: Sunny Virginia, USA
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: My Doom Meter has Been off the charts . . .
RedStateGreen wrote:
jlw61 wrote:
Then there are articles like this that start spelling out the preps being made by TPTB. Simply put, government is getting its ducks in a row in anticipation of these events.
That's called triage, SOP in a major disaster.
I think this may be taking triage to a new level. After all, not everyone gets sick at once and they are saying "don't treat old, infirm, and mentally ill. Period." _________________ When somebody makes a statement you don't understand, don't tell him he's crazy. Ask him what he means. -- Otto Harkaman, Space Viking
Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 6350 Location: My Grandkids' Farm
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: My Doom Meter has Been off the charts . . .
With respect to Heinie's thread I'll indulge in a little Popsycology:
If your meter is pegging I'd suggest go in the direction of the arrow.
Of course you and I could both be totally wrong in our calibration and interpretation but if you go in the direction you have been thinking and practicing at some level, you probably won't regret the change; come good or bad.
I haven't and won't.... _________________ Make a plan and work it:
Joined: Sep 16, 2007 Posts: 1001 Location: Oklahoma City, USA
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: My Doom Meter has Been off the charts . . .
jlw61 wrote:
RedStateGreen wrote:
jlw61 wrote:
Then there are articles like this that start spelling out the preps being made by TPTB. Simply put, government is getting its ducks in a row in anticipation of these events.
That's called triage, SOP in a major disaster.
I think this may be taking triage to a new level. After all, not everyone gets sick at once and they are saying "don't treat old, infirm, and mentally ill. Period."
The article is about a pandemic, where the system is overwhelmed. If you don't triage in that situation, people who could be saved will die.
It's unusual to see this in the MSM though. _________________ What, so I'm in no end game
Move my piece right off the board
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: My Doom Meter has Been off the charts . . .
I'm sure any disaster planning the government is doing will work out for the best in the even of an actual disaster. With all that planning and spending all that money they can't go wrong.
Look how well they handled Katrina......
-G _________________ All right, you primitive screw-heads, listen up!
Joined: Sep 16, 2007 Posts: 1001 Location: Oklahoma City, USA
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: My Doom Meter has Been off the charts . . .
gnm wrote:
Look how well they handled Katrina......
-G
Katrina was what happens when you put a political lackey in a position that requires someone with EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SKILLS. _________________ What, so I'm in no end game
Move my piece right off the board
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: Re: My Doom Meter has Been off the charts . . .
Quote:
If your meter is pegging I'd suggest go in the direction of the arrow.
Of course you and I could both be totally wrong in our calibration and interpretation but if you go in the direction you have been thinking and practicing at some level, you probably won't regret the change; come good or bad.
I haven't and won't....
Pops the wise.
Yes, you reinforce my gut and my rationale.
I guess this is the first time in my life I've been afraid to be right - perhaps there's some weak human element in me that makes me hesitate to go all out because, like the DSEs, I don't want it to be the case.
In a horrible analogy - like the wife who buries her head in the pillow when her husband gets up at 1AM for no apparent reason because she doesn't want to know what he's doing in the kid's room.
Ayyy.
My doom meter is worse today. Good thing I invested in the high quality meter - the Chinese version would have already broke.
Pops - if you ever pass through western PA, stop by.
All times are GMT - 6 Hours Goto page Previous1, 2
Page 2 of 2
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
News
Discussions
Resources
Members
Forum FAQ
Search
Usergroups
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap 
