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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Pears Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

You could make "perry" - pear cider. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Pears Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yeah, that's a great idea. They're very sweet.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Pears Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ludi wrote:
pear pollination chart



Good resource...thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Pears Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cashmere wrote:
Have to agree with Allen Wrench.

I don't trust the guy at the local store (not Home Cheapo, not bLowes).

I bought strawberries once. The guy swore up and down they were ever bearers.

5 weeks later I have 3 bushels of strawberries all at once, then 2 weeks later nada.

Since then, I do all my own homework.


We got a local green house but they only raise flowers and small veggies. They get all their trees from out of state. Not much around where I live. I did find a coop on Monday, but they are only a notch better.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Pears Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

WisJim wrote:
I looked in my trusty "Fruit, Berry and Nut Inventory-3rd Edition", and it says that Comice requires pollination from a short list of varieties. Also, that it is primarily grown in California and Oregon, but is adaptable through zone 5. It's available from lots of mail order sources. I would think that a search on the internet might also turn up some useful info. Or check with your state's University Extension publications and see if it is a recommended variety for your area--although those publications are usually quite conservative in their recommendations, as they don't want people to fail in growing fruit.

I usually prefer to mail order fruit trees from places that give you lots of info and advice in their catalogs, but it is too late for that this year.




Thanks.

Extension agent never answered emails either. Maybe it is just my local, but service stinks around here...even minimal service.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Pears Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

mercurygirl wrote:
Asian pears are great in my climate, don't know about yours. Mine blooms fairly late which is good for pollination and bears heavily. The apple and plums have off years, but not this pear. In Sept., it's covered with round yellow pears. I could grow them bigger if I thinned it. A few years ago, I noticed some bigger ones at the grocer at about $3 each! They taste like a pear and are as juicy, but crunch like an apple. They also last a long time on the tree and in cool/cold storage. Unfortunately, the only thing I know to do is eat them or make pear sauce. I think they're too juicy to dry.

Sorry I don't know the name of mine. It's yellow with faint speckles.



I decided to go for a couple of Asians since it is getting late. Will keep studying up what other pears to get. I did get one seckel, but someone said it need a pollinator and another said it didn't; so time will tell. (Both sources were fruit tree farms)
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The pear tree that I have that has been bearing for a few years is a "Nova", and I think I got it from St Lawrence Nursery (northern New York) or Fedco, in Maine. I have had good luck with trees from both places, for my western Wisconsin site. "Nova" is usually described as a hardy but average tasting pear, but our pears, picked and then ripened off the tree, are the tastiest pears I have ever eaten. I can hardly wait for my other trees to start bearing as some of them are supposed to be really tasty.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:34 am    Post subject: Re: Pears Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I strive to pick varieties that are disease resistant, to avoid spraying if at all possible. Post-PO, fruit tree sprays might be difficult or impossible to come by. And is there any reason not to consider an Asian pear?
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: Re: Pears Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Pear trees take forever to grow.

That's why here up north they say you plant a pear tree for your grandchildren to enjoy.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: Pears Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

So far my pear experience is bearing that out, Killjoy- one has been in the ground here for years and hasn't flowered once yet.

Pears live for over 100 years.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: Pears Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ludi--

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As I write this in August 2002, the Endicott Pear Tree is approximately 372 years old!


http://www.ars-grin.gov/cor/pyrus/endicott.pear.html

I talked about this in another thread, but the local farm store that has a nursery has a bunch of pears of various varieties (probably 6 or more) and some of those have FLOWERS on them. I know the Seckel i saw did. Maybe the top wood came from a very old tree or something??? then it was grafted, allowed to grow a few years (there Seckel is bigger then mine which is 4 yrs old) and now it thinks its a dirty old man.

Its difficult for someone that loves pears so much (me) to have to wait for 10 years to eat fruit. I wonder how the pros do it out in Washington/OR? Someone needs to breed a variety that fruits in its second or third year, even if the tree only lives 20 years!
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: Pears Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

bearing age is most influenced by the rootstock. dwarfing rootstocks result in earlier bearing. Pears should start bearing in 4-10 years.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: Pears Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Rattleshirt-

On what rootstock and what variety would you most expect a quick fruiting tree? Most people on here and on other boards seem to have to wait 10 years+ to get fruit. I might bring this up on NAFEX and see if i can get some more info from growers.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: Fruit Trees and Time until First Harvest? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hello All!

I live in North Florida, and want to plant some fruit trees. I was just wondering, and cannot seem to locate online, although I am sure it is there somewhere, what fruit trees grow well here (other than citrus) and how many years it would take to see fruit from that tree, ..... if planted from a small tree purchased from a tree farm or Home Depot, not from a seed.

I have a pear tree, that was already on the property that we harvest a good yeild about every other year, and we want to add more trees. Wondering how long before one might see the Fruits of ones labor?

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Fruit Trees and Time until First Harvest? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

You have a pear tree, I reckon you are in a temperate climate.
This differs largely from tree to tree and even if the tree begins to bear it may take some years to bear a decent crop.
You have to borrow a pile of books from your local library, as only some tell you how long you have to wait.
As a rule of thumb is that it needs twice the time for a seedling tree than for a grafted nursery tree to fruit.
If you can grow papayas (seed), bananas (suckers), passionfruit (seed) you will have fruit quite quickly.
The complete book of fruit growing in Australia might be good for you as the author has his orchard somewhere near Melbourne, were it's colder.
You might grow rhubarb or berries as well, or melons, rockmelons, uchuvas (cape gooseberries), and you have fruit within a year.
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