Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 2483 Location: Graceland
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: What Did YOU Learn From Hurricane Katrina?
Cloud9 wrote:
What you are discussing is class as opposed to race. The underclass views money as a source of entertainment. They have already found ways of meeting their survival needs. When they get their hands on cash, it is a windfall to be enjoyed and shared with their friends. So, whatever largess they receive may very well be spent on cds or nails or a car that they cannot possibly pay for. They will ride around to be seen and then in a few months it will be repoed. Most goals tend to be short term. Conversation is for entertainment not for information. A good story should never be ruined by the facts.
The underclass is a world alien to the middle class but it has served it denizens for centuries and should not be discounted.
I agree with you, and yet I don't know if some members of the underclass would agree with you.
The problem, as I see it, is not how someone chooses to live their life, so much as what the rest of society should or must do to enable or support those decisions.
I just hate to hear people talk of how poor they are and how dead-end everything is while they're scratching lottery tickets, smoking a cigarette and talking on their cell phone.
The person in that situation ought to be saying "I may be poor, but I'm living this motherfu#$%& up!" _________________
Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 2483 Location: Graceland
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: What Did YOU Learn From Hurricane Katrina?
green_achers wrote:
patience wrote:
Jenab,
I simply have no sympathy for those who won't make an effort to help themselves.
I keep hearing people say that, but the subject here is Katrina. Just what would you have had the people in New Orleans do to "help themselves?" So they made a bad decision regarding the evacuation, but as I said, it's always a judgment call, and it's a harder decision to make when you don't have cheap or easy transportation. No one was offering bus rides out before the storm.
Once they were trapped within the flooded city, with no aid arriving for several days, and police shooting at them when they tried to get out, what would you have had them do? What would you have done?
The OP was intended to focus more on the inadequacy of government assistance and the lack of personal preparations than on the traits any of us like or dislike about particular groups.
But I think it does raise the important point that in ANY large scale disaster the old, poor and sick are going to suffer the most. Unfortunately, that is something that people will have to get used to seeing if times get hard everywhere. _________________
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: What Did YOU Learn From Hurricane Katrina?
I've learned that Katrina was the only REAL justified price spike since i've been watching oil prices.Everything else has been imagined or way overblown.Iran's not gonna cut of oil shipments and doom it's already weak economy,Turkey is not gonna go into Iraq and take over their oil industry.Nigeria is not gonna fall into complete chaos,we wouldn't let it happen.Today,if someone farts on an oil rig the price of oil goes up.It's just a fantastic way to make boatloads of cash. _________________ Gimme some demand destruction.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: What Did YOU Learn From Hurricane Katrina?
Yeah, sure we can keep Nigeria under control..... That would only take about 200,000 more Marines. The only thing keeping Turkey out of Iraq is our presence. They'd like nothing better than to roll over Kurdistan/Iraq and take their oil...
Last I checked it wasn't farts driving oil up, it was lack of supply and increase in demand from the developed world as well as ever increasing demand from Chindia. The bidding war is moving out of the third world. Now we have to outbid China and India as well...
-G _________________ All right, you primitive screw-heads, listen up!
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: What Did YOU Learn From Hurricane Katrina?
Three months ago it was $85,today it's $126 and still rising.Tell me,what has happened in the last three months to justify a $41 dollar increase other than the falling dollar itself.Gimme a break,haven't you ever heard of greed? _________________ Gimme some demand destruction.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: What Did YOU Learn From Hurricane Katrina?
green achers,
I was only referring to a specific incident I wrote about in an earlier post that occurred in Houston, not to NO in general. I don't intend any offense any others in NO. I won't pursue this.
BigTex,
Like I said above I won't pursue this. Sorry if I've sidetracked trying to clean it up.
As to govt inadequacy, there was little else from govt, unless it was counterproductive, was there? _________________ Local fix-it guy..
Joined: Dec 25, 2005 Posts: 389 Location: Hillsboro, West Virginia
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: What Did YOU Learn From Hurricane Katrina?
BigTex wrote:
Jenab6, in the interest of full disclosure, is Jerry Abbott your real name? If it's not your real name, why bother signing it at the bottom of your posts?
Jerry Abbott has been my pen name for 12 years. It's the name I'm best known by. But, in the interests of full disclosure...
Robin Hobb is to Margaret Ogden
as
Jerry Abbott is to David Sims
When I sign my posts, it sometimes means that I intend to repost them elsewhere.
green_achers wrote:
Jenab6 wrote:
Almost every last bit of the fraud with the FEMA and Red Cross vouchers was perpetrated by Blacks. Whites did not do this.
You are completely full of shit. I am an eyewitness, and that's all I'll say about that.
Whether you really were an eyewitness or not, I stand by my statement. I was not in New Orleans or in Houston, but I've spoken with people who were, and they're at least as eyewitness as you are. Your (vague, unspecific) denial of my statement conflicts with other reports I've heard. In short, I don't believe you.
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That would only take about 200,000 more Marines. The only thing keeping Turkey out of Iraq is our presence. They'd like nothing better than to roll over Kurdistan/Iraq and take their oil...
