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Atlantean_Relic Intermediate Crude


Joined: Oct 24, 2005 Posts: 825 Location: North of Id, west of Oz, and infront of the damned rabbit
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: SPR Cutoff |
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So, now they seen fit to screw us in any upcoming short term disasters too. _________________ Was a long and dark December
When the banks became cathedrals
And the fog
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Plantagenet Expert


Joined: Apr 09, 2007 Posts: 4860 Location: Alaska (its much bigger than Texas).
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: SPR Cutoff |
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"Supporters of the bill say it could save consumers more at the pump. A statement from Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said it could bring down gas prices by as much as 24 cents a gallon.
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I wonder where Nancy Pelosi got that number? Did she just make it up? Leading economists say the SPR move will have only a small effect---at most a few pennies per gallon. |
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Cashmere Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Mar 27, 2008 Posts: 1055
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: SPR Cutoff |
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Who was the one no vote? _________________ Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group. |
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Plantagenet Expert


Joined: Apr 09, 2007 Posts: 4860 Location: Alaska (its much bigger than Texas).
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: SPR Cutoff |
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| Cashmere wrote: | | Who was the one no vote? |
Sen. Allard (R-Colo).
Both Obama and Clinton flew to DC just to vote yes. McCain said he is also in favor, but he stayed out west on the campaign trail. |
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Volcanic21 Coal


Joined: Jan 28, 2008 Posts: 19
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: SPR Cutoff |
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Revi Fusion


Joined: Apr 25, 2005 Posts: 3052 Location: Maine
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:59 pm Post subject: The Senate just voted to quit filling the SPR |
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The Senate just decided that it's too expensive to keep filling the SPR:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5imPz0z6szykAL-CAKZDEZOAiDREgD90KSK081
I think it will be more expensive when we run out of oil next winter.
It may not even help the price of oil. Bush may veto it, and I have to say that this is the first time I agree with him on anything. _________________ Deep in the mud and slime of things, even there, something sings. |
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green_achers Heavy Crude


Joined: Aug 14, 2005 Posts: 335 Location: Mississippi Delta
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: The Senate just voted to quit filling the SPR |
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This is the one issue he's been pretty consistently right about IMO. For the wrong reasons, I'm sure... _________________ OK, I give up. If they want to sell us real stuff for our Monopoly money, who am I to argue? |
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Revi Fusion


Joined: Apr 25, 2005 Posts: 3052 Location: Maine
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: Senate vote to suspend SPR refilling |
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We're really in trouble now. When will oil hit $75 a barrel again? What is the matter with these people? Who voted them in to office? I hope that some congresspeople have more sense than the senators. I know Roscoe Bartlett will vote no, anyway. _________________ Deep in the mud and slime of things, even there, something sings. |
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emersonbiggins Moderator


Joined: Jul 10, 2005 Posts: 4742 Location: Dallas
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: Senate vote to suspend SPR refilling |
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This move by Congress, like most lately, is framed as if the runup in oil prices is a temporary phenomenon. I am guessing $75/bbl is considered the "just price" for oil by Congress (and the American public?), and the price above and beyond that is just due to those greedy speculators  _________________ “I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.” George Carlin
R.I.P.
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UncoveringTruths Intermediate Crude


Joined: Nov 04, 2004 Posts: 822
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: SPR Cutoff |
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If we have an oil crisis these folks will look like kooks.
Wait are we in an oil crisis?  _________________ It's a cold cold world when a man has to pawn his shoes. |
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baha Coal


Joined: Jul 12, 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Mississippi, USA
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Senate vote to suspend SPR refilling |
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Doesn't the president have sole control over the SPR? Is there anyway congress can force him to stop filling?
This is the one issue where Bush is right to keep filling. I'm sure he has inside info that says peak oil is here and that is why he insists on continuing.
Of course the consumer will never see any of this oil. It will be used by the military when TSHTF. You know we will have to eventually invade Venezuella and the rest of the middle east. If they are busy waging war maybe they'll leave me alone!!! _________________ A horse is like a motorcycle that loves you back! |
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Plantagenet Expert


Joined: Apr 09, 2007 Posts: 4860 Location: Alaska (its much bigger than Texas).
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Senate vote to suspend SPR refilling |
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| baha wrote: | | Doesn't the president have sole control over the SPR? Is there anyway congress can force him to stop filling? |
Check out the US Constitution. Congress writes the laws.
The Senate just voted to make it crime to put oil in the SPR if crude costs more then $75/barrel. Pelosi and the House support the bill. |
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Plantagenet Expert


Joined: Apr 09, 2007 Posts: 4860 Location: Alaska (its much bigger than Texas).
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Senate vote to suspend SPR refilling |
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While congress is just pandering to our citizens consumers, as Shanny elegantly put it, their new law to suspend SPR filling until oil drops below $75/barrel probably doesn't hurt anything.
The SPR is 96% full now. |
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Dreamtwister Fission


Joined: Feb 06, 2006 Posts: 2011
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Senate vote to suspend SPR refilling |
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This is good enough to be classified as black comedy. Seriously, I'm laughing so hard right now. _________________ The whole of human history is a refutation by experiment of the concept of "moral world order". - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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Plantagenet Expert


Joined: Apr 09, 2007 Posts: 4860 Location: Alaska (its much bigger than Texas).
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Senate vote to suspend SPR refilling |
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"The action, supported by the Democratic and Republican presidential candidates, comes as high fuel costs have contributed to the nation's economic woes and become a hot issue on the campaign trail. It could be the only legislation that Congress passes this year in response to public angst at the fuel pump because of the parties' differences over energy issues. ---CNN
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Its pretty funny and a bit sad too....
So this bill is the Congress's response to peak oil and the high oil prices.
This is their energy plan devised to deal with high energy prices...this is what we get from the US Congress as oil goes higher and higher.
No electric train systems, no nukes, no offshore drilling, no Manhattan project for energy, no crash programs......this is the new policy.
This is it. |
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