Hoarding is exactly what the government is doing right now by filling the SPR, and frankly it's the best thing that could happen. It drives prices up. High prices encourage demand destruction. They also finance new well development. The hoarded oil gives us a buffer to fall back on once shortages become more prevalent. High prices are what we need in order to adapt to what's coming, and the sooner they happen, the better.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: Surrendering to Hizballah
threadbear,
No, I'm just really turned off by someone posting pro-Hizballah propaganda over and over on a website dedicated to peak oil knowing this organization that supports the implementation of an absolutely demonic legal system called Islamic law.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: Surrendering to Hizballah
the_sword wrote:
threadbear,
No, I'm just really turned off by someone posting pro-Hizballah propaganda over and over on a website dedicated to peak oil knowing this organization that supports the implementation of an absolutely demonic legal system called Islamic law.
I don't think Cid is saying he supports Sharia law. The irony of all of this is the people who moan the loudest about the cruelty of it, would like to go in there and kill a lot of people in order to save them from it.
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: Surrendering to Hizballah
Sword and Oil4u,
Are the articles true or false in the facts reported? Analyze the article which started this thread and show me which facts are not true - re-educate me and enlighten me please.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: Surrendering to Hizballah
seahorse,
Debating what policies the US has have had, and there shortcomings, as well as the policies we should implement to insure a liberal democracy in Islamic countries is beyond the scope of an Internet Blog. And certainly beyond the scope of a website dedicated to peak oil.
But debate of reasoned opinion isn't what CID is posting this snippets for. Did you see him add commentary? Thoughtful insight?
Helli, he hasn't even answered if he supports the creation of a liberal democracy of an Islamic state in Lebanon (or other Islamic countries)?
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: Lebanese Current Events Thread
Debating what policies the US has have had, and there shortcomings, as well as the policies we should implement to insure a liberal democracy in Islamic countries is beyond the scope of an Internet Blog. And certainly beyond the scope of a website dedicated to peak oil.
Absolute Bull Crap. Where do you think our oil comes from Seditionist? Where do you think it won't be coming from soon due to the policies of the Bush Administration? Hope you like walking. _________________ In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
- George Orwell
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:36 am Post subject: Re: Lebanon falls to Hezbollah
The U.S. appears unable to grasp that it no longer has any options or reliable partners left in Lebanon. American officials make statements about supporting the democratically elected Lebanese government, but essentially no such government exists. The Lebanese army, many of whose soldiers are Shi'a Muslims and support the opposition, would split apart if pressed into service against Hizballah. The American-trained security services value their lives more than the $300 million in U.S. aid they've received and haven't fired a shot at Hizballah. And like Jumblatt, government ministers are marked men. Meanwhile, the American warship USS Cole is heading to the Mediterranean, but if the U.S. staged any military action against Hizballah, the group could take American hostages in Lebanon just as they did in the 1980s.
Sitting in his garden terrace in Beirut, with just a few family members and loyal retainers, Jumblatt is quickly coming to grips with the new political landscape. "The U.S. has failed in Lebanon and they have to admit it," he said. "We have to wait and see the new rules which Hizbollah, Syria and Iran will set. They can do what they want."
link _________________ In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
- George Orwell
I am not sure what was the worse part of this week. Living in Lebanon? Or reading the outrageous words of George Bush? Several times, I have asked myself this question: have words lost their meaning?
So let's start with lunch at the Cocteau restaurant in Beirut. Yes, it's named after Jean Cocteau, and it is one of the chicest places in town. Magnificent flowers on the table, impeccable service, wonderful food. Yes, there was shooting at Sodeco – 20 yards away – the day before; yes, we were already worried about the virtual collapse of the Lebanese government, the humiliation of Sunni Muslims (and the Saudis) in the face of what we must acknowledge as a Hizbollah victory (don't expect George Bush to understand this) and the danger of more street shooting. But I brought up the tiny matter of the little massacre in northern Lebanon in which 10 or 12 militiamen were captured and then murdered before being handed over to the Lebanese army. Their bodies were – I fear this is correct – mutilated after death.
"They deserved it," the elegant woman on my left said. I was appalled, overwhelmed, disgusted, deeply saddened. How could she say such a thing? But this is Lebanon and a huge number of people – 62 by my count – have been killed in the past few days and all the monsters buried in the mass graves of the civil war have been dug up.
I chose escalope du veau at the Cocteau – I am sickened by how quickly I decided on it – and tried to explain to my dear Lebanese friends (and they are all dear to me) how much fury I have witnessed in Lebanon. _________________ In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
- George Orwell
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Surrendering to Hizballah
the_sword wrote:
seahorse,
Debating what policies the US has have had, and there shortcomings, as well as the policies we should implement to insure a liberal democracy in Islamic countries is beyond the scope of an Internet Blog. And certainly beyond the scope of a website dedicated to peak oil.
But debate of reasoned opinion isn't what CID is posting this snippets for. Did you see him add commentary? Thoughtful insight?
Helli, he hasn't even answered if he supports the creation of a liberal democracy of an Islamic state in Lebanon (or other Islamic countries)?
I would just be happy (really i would be very genuinely happy) if Cid would just find the "quote" button up above so that I stop looking through the things he posts looking for the commentary just to find out that there is none there.
I will still read the subject sentence (at least) of the quoted article and click through if I want more information but please.... please use the quote button. It is not that hard and it will help those reading.
Here I'll even throw in a cute picture if it makes a difference.
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:23 am Post subject: Re: Surrendering to Hizballah
threadbear wrote:
The irony of all of this is the people who moan the loudest about the cruelty of it, would like to go in there and kill a lot of people in order to save them from it.
I agree with you, except on your choice of verb tense. I think the one you meant wasn't "would like to go and kill", but "have been going in there and killing". Decades now. And yet we still heard that asinine chorus of "why do they hate us?". _________________ I can has cheezburger?
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