Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread)
fastpack wrote:
I have a 20 ga mossberg shotgun, looking for a clip for it, any ideas where I could find one online?
Also, thinking about investing in a rifle, any good suggestions?
As others have pointed out, it uses an integral tube, not a clip. M1 Garands use clips and some revolvers use moon clips. Everything else uses a magazine or tube. People misuse the word 'clip' far too often.
I'm getting the idea that you don't even know the purpose for which you want this rifle. If you don't define the purpose for the rifle, it is impossible to make a good recommendation. Rifles are niche tools. No one rifle does everything well, but most rifles do one or two things very well. You have to identify those one or two things that are important to you, and then start narrowing down your list from there.
You have a lot of reading ahead of you. If you also do not know the parts on your shotgun and how it works, I would suggest that you take some safety courses at your local range. It is imperative to safely use firearms or horrible accidents can happen which you will regret for the rest of your life. The first step is to learn about your firearm and then use that knowledge to train and practice with it so that using it becomes second nature, like riding a bike.
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread)
GeoJAP wrote:
fastpack wrote:
I have a 20 ga mossberg shotgun, looking for a clip for it, any ideas where I could find one online?
Also, thinking about investing in a rifle, any good suggestions?
As others have pointed out, it uses an integral tube, not a clip. M1 Garands use clips and some revolvers use moon clips. Everything else uses a magazine or tube. People misuse the word 'clip' far too often.
I'm getting the idea that you don't even know the purpose for which you want this rifle. If you don't define the purpose for the rifle, it is impossible to make a good recommendation. Rifles are niche tools. No one rifle does everything well, but most rifles do one or two things very well. You have to identify those one or two things that are important to you, and then start narrowing down your list from there.
You have a lot of reading ahead of you. If you also do not know the parts on your shotgun and how it works, I would suggest that you take some safety courses at your local range. It is imperative to safely use firearms or horrible accidents can happen which you will regret for the rest of your life. The first step is to learn about your firearm and then use that knowledge to train and practice with it so that using it becomes second nature, like riding a bike.
Sorry for my error, although it is a magazine (not a clip), not a tube. Bolt action mossberg 20 gauge, 1 in the chamber , 2 in the magazine. Thanks for all the help. _________________ J in N. FL.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread)
What parts do you have there?
I could show you a few of mine too. I prefer high quality AKs and other gas piston rifles myself. Never been much of an AR fan, although I'm sure that is a great rifle. One thing I like about ARs is how light they are.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread)
GeoJAP wrote:
What parts do you have there?
I could show you a few of mine too. I prefer high quality AKs and other gas piston rifles myself. Never been much of an AR fan, although I'm sure that is a great rifle. One thing I like about ARs is how light they are.
Bushmaster AR15, EOTech 551, Troy free float fore end, JP trigger and a MUM (night vision).
Should the time come, taking the Kings deer should be fairly easy. _________________ "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the
Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you."
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread)
Impressive indeed Specops...
The NV is a real clincher...I'm no AR fan, but I'd be a proud man to own that!
Happy Hunting
For your average Joe...and this is simple advice for Newbies...you need 3 weapons Minimum:
1) A pistol
...best if it's not to large to under clothes (with CCW permit of course). NOTHING under .32 caliber, and nothing over .45 for newbies.
(.45LC "Cowboy Colt's"are great LEAD bullets...better than Jacketed HP, no need to worry if they will expand as long as you hit bone...then it's jiffy pop time!)
2) A rifle capable of hitting AT LEAST 3" at 100 meters/ or yards.
.223 or larger caliber......308 win. is an excellent choice. Bolts are a good choice for those who cower at military LOOKING products. Heck a good 7.62 bolt with a scope is not to be scoffed at.
3) And a 12 Gauge shotgun... no cheaper than a Pump Mossberg /Mavrik for the budget types.
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread)
On a more serious note,
Has or will anyone be going to the national championship matches at Camp Perry, OH?
Went for my first time last year and wish I would have had more than the couple of hours that I did. Never got to see the live matches. Did not even get to see all of the vendors on commercial row.
What I did see; them shooters are SERIOUS, and commercial row had LOTS of gear, equipment, parts, and vendors.
The matches start around mid-July with pistols and run into late August. Think commercial row is only in August??? _________________ "...the problem is today we have unknown unknowns."
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