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Cashmere
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 Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: I just saw ABC News. WTF it sounded like Crude Awakening |
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| Quote: | | Yeah, most likely it would get blamed on China and India... The other day I saw them being referred to as "energy-guzzlers", |
Wow. The farking balls on us.
What did the poster mean about the electric car rumors making the rounds? I didn't follow.
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Heineken
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: I just saw ABC News. WTF it sounded like Crude Awakening |
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I saw the segment, and it definitely (not "definately," BTW) struck me as groundbreaking for the MSM. They actually mentioned the prospect of $10 gasoline. Still did not go nearly all the way, but must have shaken up plenty of naive viewers.
It's getting closer, folks. It's already almost here.
We really have been right all these years.
How I wish we had been wrong.
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joeltrout
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: I just saw ABC News. WTF it sounded like Crude Awakening |
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| vision-master wrote: |
What's going to happen to places like SoCal? |
I will keep you posted on what happens in the front lines. 
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perdition79
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:29 am Post subject: Re: I just saw ABC News. WTF it sounded like Crude Awakening |
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I was on the phone for two hours with three relatives because of that damn news story. Why'd they have to go and start spooking the herd so soon? I figured on having until Labor Day for this to happen. We will have our work cut out for us, folks; it's the end of the beginning.
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mos6507
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:06 am Post subject: Re: I just saw ABC News. WTF it sounded like Crude Awakening |
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| Ludi wrote: | It seems very much to be talked about in a "someday this might happen" kind of way....
I'm not much impressed. |
And obviously they also don't seem to want to broach the topic of DIE OFF as the endpoint. They just look at it as a permanent (but mild) drop in standard of living. |
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mos6507
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:17 am Post subject: Re: I just saw ABC News. WTF it sounded like Crude Awakening |
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| joeltrout wrote: | | vision-master wrote: |
What's going to happen to places like SoCal? |
I will keep you posted on what happens in the front lines.
joeltrout |
Like pumping our sewage back into the aquifers to accomodate the overshoot? Los Angeles is F-d in more ways than one and with each passing day I feel more resolute in my decision to move out.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/16/us/16water.html?ref=science |
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SILENTTODD
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 3:16 am Post subject: Re: I just saw ABC News. WTF it sounded like Crude Awakening |
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| vision-master wrote: | | RSB wrote: | | vision-master wrote: | | What's going to happen to places like SoCal? |
Before or after the next big earthquake? |
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vision-master, at least the populace of California won’t freeze when they can no longer afford heating oil or natural gas to heat in the winter like those living in Minnesota may. The prices for those resources will sky rocket long before global warming will make your winters more moderate. Better stock up lots of thermals!
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MattSavinar
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:36 am Post subject: Re: I just saw ABC News. WTF it sounded like Crude Awakening |
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| DomusAlbion wrote: | OMG, the flood gates are about to burst.
Quick, buy more supplies, buy more ammo.  |
ammo is going up in price and some of the bulk food suppliers (Mountain House) have suspended sales.
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PeakingAroundtheCorner
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: Re: I just saw ABC News. WTF it sounded like Crude Awakening |
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| MattSavinar wrote: | | DomusAlbion wrote: | OMG, the flood gates are about to burst.
Quick, buy more supplies, buy more ammo. |
ammo is going up in price and some of the bulk food suppliers (Mountain House) have suspended sales. |
Good to see you, Matt. Yup, I'm running into trouble with arranging bulk purchases of food for my cache. I was going to spend my entire stimulus check on storable foods but it's getting very expensive if you can even find it.
As for the article the OP referenced, since when is a trip from Illinois to Yellowstone 3,500 miles?
Anyways, it seems like there is more and more of a "soft-sell" going on in the MSM with regard to the state of oil and gas. I just watched a segment on MSNBC with Alex Witt where the reason for high prices was placed, without the usual spin, on the fundamentals - supply cannot meet demand, therefore high prices. And I'm seeing more and more allusion to fundamentals across the MSM. It's like they are softening up the populus so that reality won't come crashing down on it. |
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vision-master
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:40 am Post subject: Re: I just saw ABC News. WTF it sounded like Crude Awakening |
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| SILENTTODD wrote: | | vision-master wrote: | | RSB wrote: | | vision-master wrote: | | What's going to happen to places like SoCal? |
Before or after the next big earthquake? |
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vision-master, at least the populace of California won’t freeze when they can no longer afford heating oil or natural gas to heat in the winter like those living in Minnesota may. The prices for those resources will sky rocket long before global warming will make your winters more moderate. Better stock up lots of thermals! |
Better than sweating to death. |
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DomusAlbion
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: Re: I just saw ABC News. WTF it sounded like Crude Awakening |
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| vision-master wrote: | | Better than sweating to death. |
Yes, it's much better to leave a nice clean corpsicle that someone else can throw upon their bonfire.
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Mechler
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:04 am Post subject: Re: I just saw ABC News. WTF it sounded like Crude Awakening |
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| SILENTTODD wrote: | | vision-master wrote: | | RSB wrote: | | vision-master wrote: | | What's going to happen to places like SoCal? |
Before or after the next big earthquake? |
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vision-master, at least the populace of California won’t freeze when they can no longer afford heating oil or natural gas to heat in the winter like those living in Minnesota may. The prices for those resources will sky rocket long before global warming will make your winters more moderate. Better stock up lots of thermals! |
Si, pero ustedes todos necesitan hablar y entender Espanol! 
(sorry for the butchering - I'm quite rusty)
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SILENTTODD
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: I just saw ABC News. WTF it sounded like Crude Awakening |
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| vision-master wrote: | | SILENTTODD wrote: | | vision-master wrote: | | RSB wrote: | | vision-master wrote: | | What's going to happen to places like SoCal? |
Before or after the next big earthquake? |
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vision-master, at least the populace of California won’t freeze when they can no longer afford heating oil or natural gas to heat in the winter like those living in Minnesota may. The prices for those resources will sky rocket long before global warming will make your winters more moderate. Better stock up lots of thermals! |
Better than sweating to death. |
Oh please! I've visited family in Wisconsin and Chicago when the temperature was 100 F and 80%+ humidity! And you think California is hot? At least we can get away with swamp coolers in much of the state. You have to use expensive to run refrigerated air conditioning because there’s too much humidity. To be comfortable you have major expenses summer and winter. 
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Peepers
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: I just saw ABC News. WTF it sounded like Crude Awakening |
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[quote="RSB"] | americandream wrote: | | Yeah, most likely it would get blamed on China and India... The other day I saw them being referred to as "energy-guzzlers" |
The same way a 50-year-old drunk calls the pot-smoking teenager down the street "the neighborhood nuisance"? |
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mos6507
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: I just saw ABC News. WTF it sounded like Crude Awakening |
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| DomusAlbion wrote: | | vision-master wrote: | | Better than sweating to death. |
Yes, it's much better to leave a nice clean corpsicle that someone else can throw upon their bonfire. |
Listen, there are more ways to heat a home than through oil and natural gas. If people are so stuck in their ways that they won't investigate the options, then screw em. |
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