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olekriri Tar Sands


Joined: Apr 22, 2008 Posts: 33
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:47 am Post subject: 10% consumption increase in Norway |
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760 million litres og gas and diesel were consumed in Norway in April.
Diesel increased with 21.9% while gas fell 5.7% compared to last year. Total growth is 10,2% compared to April 2007.
The average price was $9.38/gallon for gas and $9.46/gallon for diesel (diesel has lower taxation), the highest in Europe. |
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3aidlillahi Intermediate Crude


Joined: Mar 25, 2008 Posts: 547
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:20 am Post subject: Re: 10% consumption increase in Norway |
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[quote="olekriri"]760 million litres og gas and diesel were consumed in Norway in April.
Diesel increased with 21.9% while gas fell 5.7% compared to last year. Total growth is 10,2% compared to April 2007.
The average price was $9.38/gallon for gas and $9.46/gallon for diesel (diesel has lower taxation), the highest in Europe.[/quote
Why would diesel go up so much while gas goes down? Is it a transfer from gas powered vehicles to diesel-powered? Or is it increased shipping and truck-transit?
Kudos to the Norwegians. Imagine having some of the world's largest oil revenue with their oil exports only to turn around and tax their own oil consumption to "death". That takes a very educated population whose willing to look beyond the next year and a government that can resist temptations. Norway can come out very prosperous over the next few decades with the choices they've made.
Let's just hope they don't let the revenues go to their heads and lower taxes and increase fuel consumption even more. 10% is pretty staggering, comparable, IIRC to China's growth. But is it a trend or the product of a doubling in oil prices over a year? _________________ Riches are not from abundance of worldly goods, but from a contented mind. |
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olekriri Tar Sands


Joined: Apr 22, 2008 Posts: 33
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:33 am Post subject: Re: 10% consumption increase in Norway |
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Well, there has been some complaining lately because the goverment has decided to increase fuel taxes from July 1.
The taxation on both the cars themselves (which is extremely high in Norway for high-emission cars*) and fuel has been more friendly towards diesel for several years. Most cars sold last year was diesel based.
*A new Jeep Grand Cherokee costs 1 million NOK, around $200,000. |
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3aidlillahi Intermediate Crude


Joined: Mar 25, 2008 Posts: 547
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:02 am Post subject: Re: 10% consumption increase in Norway |
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| olekriri wrote: | Well, there has been some complaining lately because the goverment has decided to increase fuel taxes from July 1.
The taxation on both the cars themselves (which is extremely high in Norway for high-emission cars*) and fuel has been more friendly towards diesel for several years. Most cars sold last year was diesel based.
*A new Jeep Grand Cherokee costs 1 million NOK, around $200,000. |
So is the increase in consumption due to personal vehicle consumption increases then? Have there been any analyses of this yet?
How much will taxes increase? I can't imagine it being due to a lack of funds for the government, so is it (the additional tax increases) to keep a lid on oil consumption? Very smart. _________________ Riches are not from abundance of worldly goods, but from a contented mind. |
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Cashmere Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Mar 27, 2008 Posts: 1437
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: Re: 10% consumption increase in Norway |
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Gotta love the Norwegians.
Nothing can create a false sense of superiority like a giant oil booty.
There was some guy on the site a year or two ago bragging about how Norway used almost no fossil fuels.
Guess he wasn't counting all of the oil that was being sold and burned elsewhere. _________________ Massive Human Dieoff must occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where you live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group. |
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olekriri Tar Sands


Joined: Apr 22, 2008 Posts: 33
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:43 am Post subject: Re: 10% consumption increase in Norway |
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| 3aidlillahi wrote: |
How much will taxes increase? I can't imagine it being due to a lack of funds for the government, so is it (the additional tax increases) to keep a lid on oil consumption? Very smart. |
17 cents/gallon for diesel and 8 cents for gas. I think it's to small to affect consumption with our oil-booming wages. I don't think we will see any significant reduction before we reach 20 NOK/litre, around $15/gallon.
Goverment has a goal of reducing C02 emissions significanlty by 2020, but of course if you count our oil being consumed elsewere we will be one of the worst polluters for years. |
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SteinarN Tar Sands


Joined: Sep 20, 2007 Posts: 72 Location: Norway
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: Re: 10% consumption increase in Norway |
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There was a big change in taxation on new cars starting 1. january 2007. We had taxation for horse power, weight and motor displacement. From 1. january 2007, the taxation for motor displacement was removed and replaced with a taxation for co2 emission. Thus cars with high fuel consumption got higher taxation and cars with low fuel consumption got lower taxation. A car with diesel engine has considerably lower co2 emission compared to the same car with petrol engine. Thus a diesel engine car is normally considerably cheaper than the same car with petrol engine. Also auto transmission can cost as much as US$ 5.000 to 10.000 extra solely due to higher co2 emission and higher co2 taxation.
In 2006, roughly 50% of new cars sold was with diesel engines. In 2007, the first year with the new taxation system, the diesel part was 75% of new cars sold. |
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kilik Tar Sands


Joined: Dec 13, 2007 Posts: 21 Location: Norway
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:02 am Post subject: Re: 10% consumption increase in Norway |
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Norwegians spend less of their money on gas compared to 1998.
The gas price has increased 55% from $6.13/gallon in May 1998 to $9.49/gallon in May 2008.
The average salary has increased 50-55% during the same period. On top of that the cars have become a bit more efficient.
In 1998 Norwegians spent 4.2% of their income on gas, in 2008 it's only 3.2%. |
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Serial_Worrier Heavy Crude


Joined: Jun 05, 2008 Posts: 224
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: Re: 10% consumption increase in Norway |
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| kilik wrote: | Norwegians spend less of their money on gas compared to 1998.
The gas price has increased 55% from $6.13/gallon in May 1998 to $9.49/gallon in May 2008.
The average salary has increased 50-55% during the same period. On top of that the cars have become a bit more efficient.
In 1998 Norwegians spent 4.2% of their income on gas, in 2008 it's only 3.2%. |
Meanwhile the average salary in the USA has totally stagnated in 10 years. What are they doing in Norway that's so special? |
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SteinarN Tar Sands


Joined: Sep 20, 2007 Posts: 72 Location: Norway
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: 10% consumption increase in Norway |
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The GDP has been increasing roughly 4% yearly the last several years. This year it is sheduled to a lower increase, maybe 1.5 to 2%. The unemployment rate is less than 2%
An important factor for the recently high yearly increase in GDP has been a very high activity in the private housing building sector. This sector has slowed down considerably this year, thus the falling rate of increase in GDP. Also the spending on other exspensive luxury like boats, cars, cabins are showing a noticeable decline due in large part to rising interests rates.
However traditional raw material exports as vell as exports like advanced ships for the oil industry and other oil and maritime related industry is strong and well paid.
In sum Norway has benefited from strong demand in raw materials and oil and maritime related products and high prices for those products. |
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