How then, do we move backwards? How does a society, with most of the people having no clue of future events, move from being dependent on a vast and intertwined network of goods and services produced by the indigenous people of whereever, to a local resource and renewable energy based society, and do so in the timeframe available (20-30 years using the most liberal extimates, 10-20 with resonable estimates, 5-10 with worst case scenarios), all the while prices on everything increasing, world politics getting more militaristic, governments continuously reducing civil liberties, shortages of goods on the market and weather patterns resembling bad Hollywood movies?
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: geothermal energy is our future
Armageddon wrote:
So we are all going to be driving $100,000 hydrogen cars ?
I envision huge robotic machines as large as the Houston Astrodome hovering above the ocean floor with huge tentacles sucking up the hot ocean water at or near these volcanic systems. The entire system built out of modular components for easy repair. Cameras will be located for all to see with huge floodlights enlightening us all to the wonders of the sea.
Byproducts from the heat we extract will include massive mineral deposits. Pouring out of the vents are thick deposits of minerals rich in copper, iron, manganese, and zinc.
Monitoring stations will be located in downtown office buildings using remote controls to run the system and all the while we can watch the process in TV.
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: geothermal energy is our future
Pay attention class
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Note the deluisional thinking and far out fantasies
stay far away from them when they start to get the "deer in the headlights" look. Not long after they will start to change and become Dangerous _________________ There will come a day when we would have wished to do a little evil for a greater good.
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: geothermal energy is our future
lostinspace wrote:
Armageddon wrote:
So we are all going to be driving $100,000 hydrogen cars ?
I envision huge robotic machines as large as the Houston Astrodome hovering above the ocean floor with huge tentacles sucking up the hot ocean water at or near these volcanic systems. The entire system built out of modular components for easy repair. Cameras will be located for all to see with huge floodlights enlightening us all to the wonders of the sea. Byproducts from the heat we extract will include massive mineral deposits. Pouring out of the vents are thick deposits of minerals rich in copper, iron, manganese, and zinc.
Monitoring stations will be located in downtown office buildings using remote controls to run the system and all the while we can watch the process in TV.
What else is pouring out of those vents? Ecstacy? Lostinspace it sounds as if you are lost in LaLaLand.
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: geothermal energy is our future
We've a whole stinky town of geo-thermal vents in New Zealand and are still oil addicts. Doesn't that say something? _________________ Bugger me, I hear oil's runnin out mate!
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: geothermal energy is our future
This one seems a little far-fetched...
But geothermal energy is an important part of the energy grid in places like Iceland and could become a major player in other places with geothermal resources.
Hawaii seems like the logical place to build more geothermal plants. Diesel generators supply much of the island chain's power (IIRC) and geothermal resources are enormous thanks to volcanic activity.
If geothermal is anybody's future, it's got to be the Hawaiians. _________________ "www.peakoil.com is the Myspace of the Apocalypse."
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: geothermal energy is our future
The crying shame about geothermal is that it does have immense potential. Right beneath us, in many sites around the world we have more high-quality heat energy than we could ever wish for.
The problem is that the technology is about 100 years beyond us (as our new troll buddy pointed out). Drill bits snap & twist, even igneous rock turns into a material more like a liquid than a solid, under the temperatures & pressures involved. And, ahh, then, the sheer joys, even if you do get it right, of pumping liquid water underground & then trying to control the passage of superheated steam deep underground in a place you can never even visit, save on a computer model, still less marry up a turbine inlet to.
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: geothermal energy is our future
New homes build should have geothermal heating and cooling systems put in instead of the standard AC and heaters. They are 20% to 40% more efficient and would be even more efficient if you use solar to power the unit.
IF your changing out you heating and cooling system I would change over to a geothermal unit.
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: geothermal energy is our future
Armageddon wrote:
So we are all going to be driving $100,000 hydrogen cars ?
As I pointed out on the hydrogen thread, it is possible to convert a standard car engine to run on hydrogen (you don't need an all new design with a fuel cell).
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: geothermal energy is our future
Electric_Economy_2025 wrote:
New homes build should have geothermal heating and cooling systems put in instead of the standard AC and heaters. They are 20% to 40% more efficient and would be even more efficient if you use solar to power the unit.
IF your changing out you heating and cooling system I would change over to a geothermal unit.
I do wish people these days would seperate geothermal from heat pumps. The first one is an energy source, the second is an energy technology. There is a thumping difference between the two...
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