[Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread)

bobaloo · Heavy Crude Joined: Oct 14, 2004 Posts: 484

My everyday carry is an FN Hipower in .40. I own and have shot a lot of handguns and just shoot better with that pistol than any other I've ever tried. Recently invested in the Navidrex micarta grips, they're not pretty but they're very comfortable and secure, really nice. My Hipower has the SFS system from Cylinder & Slide, it's odd but works great. After the gun is cocked you push the hammer forward, puts it on safe, then when you hit the safety the hammer jumps back into firing position. For a single action carry gun without a grip safety it's a neat setup, plus it means the trigger components have been replaced with Cylinder & Slide's high-end parts and gives it a crisp 4 pound trigger, as good as any of my 1911's.

You can get the same pistol right now from CDNN for $449, brand new, I think they're a great deal if you're looking for a nice Hipower.

This year part of my "stimulus" check is going to Gemtech, getting their small can for my AR which will also give me the option of putting it on my 10/22 or Buckmark. Something I've been wanting for a long time, can finally justify the expense.

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ALBY

i am lusting for an intergrally supressed gemtech mk II. in fact, anything gemtech makes is money IMHO.

but i am too paranoid to get the stamp.

5bullwhip

i am not really a collector, although I have a bunch of shotguns i've inherited from my family. i have a mint belgian sweet 16 auto 5 that is to die for and my dad has a benelli SBE atlantic flyways special edition that is one real purdy I talian shotgun. i have a lot of old guns from upstate NY. a stevens side by side with 26 inch tubes, a fox side by side, an old reminton 11-48 from the ilion factory, an ithaca SKB autoloading trap gun, a savage model 1921 from the 30's, an old stevens model 53B single shot .22, a marlin 101 single shot .22.

geojap has some nice ordinance. but i have NO experience with sigs or AK's. we just don't see them too much in IPSC or 3GUN. AR's rule three gun because of accuracy, ergonomics and the mr potatohead aspect of being able to take them apart and reconfigure them with minimal tools and gunsmithing. remington shotguns are the same way in 3GUN because the number and amount of aftermarket parts for the 1100 and 870 is just stupendous. and of course, 1911's and glock rule the roost for pistols.

my STI edge was done by EGW and is probably my most valuable gun, i have $4k in that pistol. but none of them are pretty. all my working guns have many thousands of rounds through them.

more pics ! lets freak out the bedwetters !

Karlos4 · Tar Sands Joined: May 22, 2008 Posts: 28

Impressive. In Spain, it is much more difficult to get a gun. The best way is to obtain a hunting license, then you can buy a shotgun (up to three, I think). But you really have to get into hunting. A hand gun is very difficult. In a collapse situation, I guess you could get some in the black market. Maybe a 22 revolver and a two-barreled shotgun (the most common) caliber 12. Any weapon is better than no weapon at all, specially in a placer where you won't face that many armed foes as you would in the USA.

bobaloo · Heavy Crude Joined: Oct 14, 2004 Posts: 484

Blacksmith

Tried my new 50 cal flintlock today. Now I know what a steady hand means. Great fun as well.
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Loki · Expert Joined: Apr 08, 2006 Posts: 1298 Location: Cascadia

Beautiful collection GeoJAP. I really like Garands, too, though I'll admit to thinking of selling mine to buy a bolt-action rig. Don't have anything to fill the precision rifle niche.

Specop, only one AR? Razz

Specop_007 · Expert Joined: Aug 12, 2004 Posts: 6267

ShinyOldLady · Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 9:40 am Post subject: shotgun for trap

Any recommendations for a 12g trap shooting shotgun less than $600? The Mossberg 590 I got doesn't allow screw-in chokes and I really just want to keep it for "kitchen sweeping" as the guys at the range refer to it. I'm shooting it at the range anyway, to get more familiar with it, but would like something better for the range and longer such distances.

Thanks.

ShinyOldLady

Meant to post this question in this thread, so sorry for the repetition. Any recommendations for a trap 12g shotgun less than $600? The Mossberg riot version is fun, but I think I can get to be a better shot at the trap range, with a different gun.

ALBY

the thing about trap is that you'll want the stock to fit you perfectly because trap is all about consistency. guys shoot really expensive trap guns, but you don't need that to have fun in trap. you can use almost any crappy old shotgun, but make sure the stock fits you right. have someone measure you, then buy a gun with a stock that has the right length of pull and comb. there are lots of shotguns for under $600.

chapman · Coal Joined: May 28, 2008 Posts: 2 Location: Indianapolis

Hello. I am brand new to the site and this is my first posting. I do agree with the 3 weapon theory. I also believe that if your are comfortable with what you have you will be much better prepared to defendwhat is yours. Something small but lethal for a carry gun, A .17 caliber for food gathering, and an old 12ga mossberg pump for defense. the bigger stuff i believe we will be able to find as needed. I believe that to survive in the midst of chaos you will be better off in small nomadic groups. foraging as you go. and unfortunately everyone will have to contribute. I think in the beginning having more than you can reasonably defend willl lead to group losses. So go out now and hone your skills. enjoy what we have before it becomes a job. and oh yeah quit your whinin.
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Cashmere · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Mar 27, 2008 Posts: 1971

GeoJAP

In my opinion, Glocks were made to be darn near bomb-proof. They are the most rugged pistol I've ever seen. I've owned three or four of them in the past. I've only run a few hundred rounds through them and never had one jam on me. The springs are extremely strong and stiff, which tells me they were built for long life. The machining on Glocks is very well done. Glock mags are also extremely durable. I like the Glock trigger safety; that is a nice design in my opinion.

However, there are some things I don't like so much about Glocks. These are just my design preferences, they are not flaws at all. They are double-action only. I prefer double action/single action pistols. Also, the Glock trigger pull is long and heavy, comparatively. I like the short, crisp single action pull of SA/DA pistols.

I prefer Sig Sauer pistols myself, as I've noted on other threads. They are made of all steel and stainless steel parts, solid steel pins (not rolled sheet metal pins like are found on some pistols), and are really nice pointing and shooting pistols. They are very durable pistols as well. They have nice DA and SA trigger pulls, and they have a decocker (no safety), which I prefer. The machining on Sigs is also very well done.

I have never had a Sig or Glock pistol malfunction. I've read quite a bit about Heckler and Koch pistols, and they have legendary reliability/durability as well. I can post a thread where one owner took his HK P2000SK and ran about 40,000 rounds through it and only had 3 malfunctions, if I remember. He finally got tired of testing it and just gave up. I don't like HKs ergonomics, however, so I've never bought one myself. But they seem to be great pistols. I'll try and find that thread.

In my opinion, I do not think you could go wrong with any of the above three pistols. It all depends on personal preference.

As far as semi-autos go, I have also owned and liked FN/Browning Hi-Powers, Colt 1911s, and Czechoslovakian CZ's. My daily carry pistol is either a Sig P239 in .40 S&W or Ruger SP-101 revolver in .357 Magnum.

Pops

Cash and Geo, I mentioned in the other thread it was about guns or no and specifics go here.

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