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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
drgoodword wrote:
Another point to remember regarding new viewers/posters...this site is "PeakOil.com." Not only does it regularly show up in the top five results from SE's, but, as the domain name industry would put it, "peakoil.com" is the "category-killer" domain name for this particular niche (peak oil). Regardless of content (which is extensive and generally of a high quality), this site will de facto be considered the main "Peak Oil" site on the internet because of its name/URL alone.
So, anyone who's got a beef with peak oil theory--maybe it doesn't fit in with their default worlfd view, etc--and needs to express their opinion on the matter will make PeakOil.com among their first must-post stops.
As we ride over the peak to the paradigm-shifting decline and "peak oil" becomes one of the most common terms in the English language, the traffic here will explode in an inverse of the decline slope.
The moderators will definitely have their hands full.
I'm sure we can use LATOC for overflow parking. _________________
Joined: Nov 11, 2007 Posts: 102 Location: Portland metro, Oregon
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
I'm all for new people coming to this site, learning and contributing, but I'm with you, Cashmere, in that the fearful idiot factor can, and probably will, get out of hand.
It's one thing for people to have questions and need to be referred to a thread or taught about the search function. It's quite another for douchebags to stroll on up to the conversation, tell us we're stupid, and spit in our faces. Or try to "convert" us away from rational thought and fact-based opinions stemming from literally years of research and analysis.
My suggestion to the mods is to move the new noob (as opposed to "newb") threads into the Hall of flames straight away, because that's where they are going to wind up anyway. Why let them detract from the credibility of the site and detour genuine "newbs" by sitting on the front page?
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
Hi everyone, newb here:)
just wanted to say thanks. I've been reading for a couple of days now, there is some seriously great content here. I appreciate everyones research and effort to post here. Hope I can contribute some useful things to you as well.
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
How long does it take to get past the NEWB label?
Let me share my thoughts a little on our global oil problems and see it anyone cares to make comments. Perhaps the main reason we have problems is that there is more demand than there is supply. We don't have the supply because the crude still underground on our planet is not available due to many reasons, among them being environmental, political, geographical, philosophical, and (maybe) religious. (Not intended as an exhaustive list.) So, until we can overcome the opposition to increasing supply, we will be faced with a future doomsday scenario, hence my nickname, Har Megiddo, Hebrew for Armageddon.
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
FreedomSlave wrote:
. Or try to "convert" us away from rational thought and fact-based opinions stemming from literally years of research and analysis.
Spoken with the authoritative wisdom of the sage with how many posts? 49?
All of you rocket scientists need to chill and understand that some awkward Newbie likely has plenty to contribute and might not always agree with your version of the status quo. New voices from outside of the echo chamber of Peak Oil forums are welcome.
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
threadbear wrote:
FreedomSlave wrote:
. Or try to "convert" us away from rational thought and fact-based opinions stemming from literally years of research and analysis.
Spoken with the authoritative wisdom of the sage with how many posts? 49?
All of you rocket scientists need to chill and understand that some awkward Newbie likely has plenty to contribute and might not always agree with your version of the status quo. New voices from outside of the echo chamber of Peak Oil forums are welcome.
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
drgoodword wrote:
Another point to remember regarding new viewers/posters...this site is "PeakOil.com." Not only does it regularly show up in the top five results from SE's, but, as the domain name industry would put it, "peakoil.com" is the "category-killer" domain name for this particular niche (peak oil). Regardless of content (which is extensive and generally of a high quality), this site will de facto be considered the main "Peak Oil" site on the internet because of its name/URL alone.
So, anyone who's got a beef with peak oil theory--maybe it doesn't fit in with their default worlfd view, etc--and needs to express their opinion on the matter will make PeakOil.com among their first must-post stops.
As we ride over the peak to the paradigm-shifting decline and "peak oil" becomes one of the most common terms in the English language, the traffic here will explode in an inverse of the decline slope.
The moderators will definitely have their hands full.
That's real catchy. Does it have axioms and corollaries?
As the rate of decline inclines the inverse of traffic is peace and quiet? or;
The exploding traffic rolls down the slope into the ditch, smoulders, and then starts to rust?
HarMegiddo you asked how long until the Newbie nomenclature disperses? Just about the time you stop with that abiotic shite. You forgot to add geologic to you list of restraints. _________________ ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
HarMegiddo wrote:
How long does it take to get past the NEWB label?
Let me share my thoughts a little on our global oil problems and see it anyone cares to make comments. Perhaps the main reason we have problems is that there is more demand than there is supply. We don't have the supply because the crude still underground on our planet is not available due to many reasons, among them being environmental, political, geographical, philosophical, and (maybe) religious. (Not intended as an exhaustive list.) So, until we can overcome the opposition to increasing supply, we will be faced with a future doomsday scenario, hence my nickname, Har Megiddo, Hebrew for Armageddon.
First off Welcome to PO.com. I have been reading this forum for about 3 years and I don't post often but I do want to welcome you and respond to your post.
The main reason you neglected to mention is geological, The US peaked in the 70's and it appears that the rest of the world peaked in about 2005-2006. Light sweet crude is getting much harder to find and produce and in my uninformed opinion it has started a rather steep decline. See Dante's Peak diesel thread and you will start to get an idea that all crude is not created equally.
I live in Louisiana which is an oil producing state and I will tell you that for the last year or so the oil companies have been drilling holes anywhere they can find to drill. Much of this is natural gas drilling but they are drilling like mad. I just can't buy the argument that all we need to do is drill more, my first hand observations are showing me that more drilling will not stop the slide. _________________ It is not the strongest of species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the ones most responsive to change.
Charles Darwin
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
[quote="lsu2001"]
HarMegiddo wrote:
How long does it take to get past the NEWB label?
Let me share my thoughts a little on our global oil problems and see it anyone cares to make comments. Perhaps the main reason we have problems is that there is more demand than there is supply. We don't have the supply because the crude still underground on our planet is not available due to many reasons, among them being environmental, political, geographical, philosophical, and (maybe) religious. (Not intended as an exhaustive list.) So, until we can overcome the opposition to increasing supply, we will be faced with a future doomsday scenario, hence my nickname, Har Megiddo, Hebrew for Armageddon.
First off Welcome to PO.com. I have been reading this forum for about 3 years and I don't post often but I do want to welcome you and respond to your post.
The main reason you neglected to mention is geological, The US peaked in the 70's and it appears that the rest of the world peaked in about 2005-2006. Light sweet crude is getting much harder to find and produce and in my uninformed opinion it has started a rather steep decline. See Dante's Peak diesel thread and you will start to get an idea that all crude is not created equally.
I live in Louisiana which is an oil producing state and I will tell you that for the last year or so the oil companies have been drilling holes anywhere they can find to drill. Much of this is natural gas drilling but they are drilling like mad. I just can't buy the argument that all we need to do is drill more, my first hand observations are showing me that more drilling will not stop the slide.[/quote
Thanks for the articulate response. There is just too much manipulation of information by the global News Management Organs to gain any real certainty about oil supply. The US Geological Survey recently (Apirl 2008) estimated that there are 3 to 4 Billion barrels of oil underground in the Dakota Montana region. Of course, those who don't want this information believed will denounce or excommunicate those who talk about it. Those who want to entertain the thought that it may have some credibility may not be welcomed by the drgoodwords of this forum.
Looking over some of those who comment here, I hope there are more like you who can speak with a stranger without slapping his face verbally.
Joined: Nov 11, 2007 Posts: 102 Location: Portland metro, Oregon
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
threadbear wrote:
FreedomSlave wrote:
. Or try to "convert" us away from rational thought and fact-based opinions stemming from literally years of research and analysis.
Spoken with the authoritative wisdom of the sage with how many posts? 49?
All of you rocket scientists need to chill and understand that some awkward Newbie likely has plenty to contribute and might not always agree with your version of the status quo. New voices from outside of the echo chamber of Peak Oil forums are welcome.
Kiss it, threadbear.
I've been here just about as long as you, just not posting. See my first post.
I've read all the books, been down the rabbit hole, and got the souvenirs to boot. I haven't needed to post nearly as much as some others because it would be repetitive of what others have already posted or continue to post. I could give a crap less about the number of my posts or what the status indicator has for my "fuel grade".
The very first thing I said in my post on this thread is that I am all for the newcomers. If you bother to read it and think for a second, you can see that my point was that there is an enormous difference between the curious/uninformed/scared (pick your adjective) newcomer and obvious trolls, and that it might be a good idea to reign in the trolls early so as not to keep serious newcomers from quickly disregarding the value of this site.
Get off your high horse. Your need to adhere to petty status symbols in order to judge credibility is very disappointing.
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
FreedomSlave wrote:
threadbear wrote:
FreedomSlave wrote:
. Or try to "convert" us away from rational thought and fact-based opinions stemming from literally years of research and analysis.
Spoken with the authoritative wisdom of the sage with how many posts? 49?
Kiss it, threadbear.
I've read all the books, been down the rabbit hole, and got the souvenirs to boot.
Oh, and don't forget "had to trudge through blizzards in my bare feet to get to Peak Oil forums If you've read all the books, got the souvenirs, etc...etc... perhaps you should be exposed to alternative points of view. Are alternative points of view synonymous with alternative energy; not to be mentioned in mature company? Should people prepare themselves for a darned good thrashing for entertaining the idea that there actually might be hope over the horizon?
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ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap 
If you've read all the books, got the souvenirs, etc...etc... perhaps you should be exposed to alternative points of view. Are alternative points of view synonymous with alternative energy; not to be mentioned in mature company? Should people prepare themselves for a darned good thrashing for entertaining the idea that there actually might be hope over the horizon?
