peakoil.com hits MSNBC.COM

frankthetank · **Posted:** Sun May 25, 2008 12:17 pm

The local paper here had it on the front page.

As long as the price stays high enough to cut consumption and prevent shortages, the masses should keep calm. First shortages that hit the headlines and its game over. People will overreact.

3aidlillahi · **Joined:** Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:00 am **Posts:** 1601

Everybody smile and wave to the nice people.

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The US consumes 20.70 million barrels of oil daily, thus 7,555.5 billion barrels a year. Estimates of the recoverable oil in ANWR range from 7.7 to 10.4; thus if we could extract it all at once it would represent a year to a year and a half of US consumption.

We use 7 and a half trillion barrels a year? Either that or you think this is peakoil.eu. Come on, TD. This is our one chance to shine and you're messing it up! :razz:

mos6507 · **Posted:** Sun May 25, 2008 2:15 pm

I guess you have to walk before you can run, but I don't think this coverage insures the topic will "hit the mainstream". Even though this article was fairly neutral, PO is still being treated as a curious subculture, like the Amish, newsworthy just because of how drastically some people are transforming their lives away from the mainstream. It's just the media going "hmm, what's this?" It's not yet risen to the level of "hey, maybe they know something we don't!"

Lore · **Posted:** Sun May 25, 2008 2:33 pm

bravoniner wrote:

pup55 wrote:

Also, there are links at the bottom. There are already 1800 viewers at 5:30 AM on Sunday. Hope Aaron has his crash-response team on hand.

We were already running slow last week.

The simple solution? The forums should be built statically (for guests at minimum). Running dynamic PHP and going to the database for *every* served web page (when it is 90% identical to last time it was generated) is expensive and useless.

It works pretty well for http://bravo9.com/peakoil

I'm not sure if phpBB has a static-building option though, probably not.

Like most things, you get what you pay for. Although I understand that peakoil.com has a copy of vBulletin waiting in the wings. If I recall, they have never been able to make the conversion for fear of losing the present data.

JPL · **Posted:** Sun May 25, 2008 4:33 pm

Lore wrote:

bravoniner wrote:

pup55 wrote:

Also, there are links at the bottom. There are already 1800 viewers at 5:30 AM on Sunday. Hope Aaron has his crash-response team on hand.

We were already running slow last week.

The simple solution? The forums should be built statically (for guests at minimum). Running dynamic PHP and going to the database for *every* served web page (when it is 90% identical to last time it was generated) is expensive and useless.

It works pretty well for http://bravo9.com/peakoil

I'm not sure if phpBB has a static-building option though, probably not.

Like most things, you get what you pay for. Although I understand that peakoil.com has a copy of vBulletin waiting in the wings. If I recall, they have never been able to make the conversion for fear of losing the present data.

Hang-on, I know a bit about this s**t. The last thing a web site in this sort of position needs to do, is to convert to anything right now - that would bring disaster (I'm sure Aaron knows this anyhow).

MySQL is lightning-fast on a good day but on a bad one it has a ghastly habit of shoving loads of cross-table stuff out to memory (& eventually to disc which just kills everything). So the immediate task is to stick more memory sticks in any free slots. Lots of it.

Failing that, start wiping old data from the large tables. There is loads of crap from years ago that can be lost. Also temporarily disable the 'search' function. Those 'LIKE' queries can be real killers...

JP

stu · **Posted:** Sun May 25, 2008 6:13 pm

If you think this is busy then wait till you see Hubbards model on prime time news.

TheDude · **Posted:** Sun May 25, 2008 7:33 pm

3aidlillahi wrote:

Everybody smile and wave to the nice people.

Quote:

The US consumes 20.70 million barrels of oil daily, thus 7,555.5 billion barrels a year. Estimates of the recoverable oil in ANWR range from 7.7 to 10.4; thus if we could extract it all at once it would represent a year to a year and a half of US consumption.

We use 7 and a half trillion barrels a year? Either that or you think this is peakoil.eu. Come on, TD. This is our one chance to shine and you're messing it up! :razz:

Fixed it. Doh!

IndigoMoon · **Posted:** Sun May 25, 2008 8:14 pm

I found this site because of the msnbc.com article. It was posted at another forum that I frequent. I am really not sure what time today I joined, it was around 1pm est. I have been here all day. I have read many of the threads. I have downloaded many of the resources. I have bookmarked many of the sites. This is my very first post. Thank you for being here.

mos6507 · **Posted:** Sun May 25, 2008 8:36 pm

This site will not handle a big peak in load. It's slow enough as it is. Also, the code behind the site feels very old also. I'm not really a hardware infrastructure guy but this site is going to need some TLC for it to survive a serious uptick in popularity.

eastbay · **Posted:** Sun May 25, 2008 8:39 pm

mos6507 wrote:

This site will not handle a big peak in load. It's slow enough as it is. Also, the code behind the site feels very old also. I'm not really a hardware infrastructure guy but this site is going to need some TLC for it to survive a serious uptick in popularity.

Yeah, mos, we may have finally hit Peak Peak Oil Dot Com. We could be looking at the Four Horsemen of the A Pack of Lips around here pretty soon. :shock:

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GeoJAP · **Posted:** Sun May 25, 2008 10:10 pm

Lore wrote:

bravoniner wrote:

pup55 wrote:

Also, there are links at the bottom. There are already 1800 viewers at 5:30 AM on Sunday. Hope Aaron has his crash-response team on hand.

We were already running slow last week.

The simple solution? The forums should be built statically (for guests at minimum). Running dynamic PHP and going to the database for *every* served web page (when it is 90% identical to last time it was generated) is expensive and useless.

It works pretty well for http://bravo9.com/peakoil

I'm not sure if phpBB has a static-building option though, probably not.

Like most things, you get what you pay for. Although I understand that peakoil.com has a copy of vBulletin waiting in the wings. If I recall, they have never been able to make the conversion for fear of losing the present data.

All you need is a good DBA. I'm a DBA and applications developer at a rather large multi-national tech company, by the way.

vBulletin should have a large enough support community, especially since it is purchased software. Someone should quickly be able to offer a decent solution.

joewp · **Posted:** Sun May 25, 2008 11:49 pm

IndigoMoon wrote:

I found this site because of the msnbc.com article. It was posted at another forum that I frequent. I am really not sure what time today I joined, it was around 1pm est. I have been here all day. I have read many of the threads. I have downloaded many of the resources. I have bookmarked many of the sites. This is my very first post. Thank you for being here.

Welcome, IndigoMoon. You're doing exactly what you should by reading and absorbing as much as you can. Don't be afraid to ask any questions about anything, we don't bite (well most of us don't, and the ones that do are well-meaning).

We who have been around for a while also thank Aaron and all the other people who have made this site a great resource. This website has changed many lives, I'm sure.

lowem · **Posted:** Mon May 26, 2008 4:51 am

So it took $130+ oil to finally do the trick, huh :lol:

Roy · **Posted:** Mon May 26, 2008 7:15 am

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HA!

Anybody stocking up and preparing for societal collapse would only be marginally better off if indeed TS-does-HTF. If things get that bad, then surely, starving bands of zombie people will find you, find your dwindling stash of supplies, and will raid your lil' parsnip garden. And even if a survivalist can hide really well, what happens as the years go by and shit runs out or breaks down? What happens when your solar electricity inverter craps out and you are in the middle of nowhere? What happens when you can't get good pesticide and some bug infestation is eating all your cabbage? There is a gazzilion things that can go wrong and there is probably no way to fully prepare. And even if there were away to build an impenetrable lifeboat, life will surely be miserable there. So what's the point? It it so someone can get old, have their health go to hell and have no doctor to relieve the pain and suffering?

Screw it. If the ship goes down, I'm going down with it. And, in the mean time, I don't have to live like a survivalist.

I just couldn't let this go. You logic goes something like this:

Yes, screw it. I'll continue smoking cigarettes and injecting heroin, because, you know, I'm going to die anyway. Research shows that all humans die so what good does it do to to deprive oneself the pleasure of nicotine and opiates? The chance of living a few more miserable years without those wonderful pleasures?

Brilliant!!!

Yes, please do your part, don't prepare; because to do so would be quite useless. Who in their right mind would want to live like a 'survivalist' anyway?

I'm sure there will be a spot in some FEMA 'relief center' with your name on it.

Talk about self-fulfilling prophecy. Party on dude!!

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