Any opinons on Liquid electricity.

Dan998 · Tar Sands Joined: Mar 07, 2005 Posts: 54

Any opinions on Liquid electricity?
I dont know if what Diggs said was true, but it definitely got my attention.

http://www.befreetech.com/energysuppression.htm
Richard Diggs - developed at an inventors workshop (I.W. international) his "Liquid Electricity Engine" that he believed could power a large truck for 25,000 miles from a single portable unit of his electrical fuel. Liquid electricity violated a number of the well known physical laws that the inventor pointed out. The inventor was also aware of the profound impact the invention could have upon the world's economy - if it could be developed.

http://www.keelynet.com/interact/Arc_1_98-7_98/00000114.htm
Hi Dr. Jones!
Fascinating, yes Diggs was the man (still alive I am told), claimed a
DeWar flask the size of a thermos bottle could hold enough 'compressed or liquid electricity' to run a small city for a year.....a flask the size
of the Washington monument could power the entire US for a year...

Note; you still have to charge the durn thing...so it isn't free energy
or even remotely close....just a novel way of storing tremendously high amounts of energy. But you could use LIGHTNING! Much like the DoDs power ring using superconductors.

pstarr

This sounds a lot like Cold Fusion. I'll bet you can keep your tuna salad sandwich inside this thing all day and it'll still be fresh at lunch Smile

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ThunderChunky · Tar Sands Joined: Dec 09, 2005 Posts: 79

Smells like pseudoscience to me.

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kpeavey · Expert Joined: Oct 04, 2004 Posts: 1320

the articles are 10 and 13 years old, and don't go into any detail.
got anything more recent?

If the technology is viable, and cost effective, can it be scaled to meet a small percentage of demand in the next decade?
What sort of energy is needed for containment?

Looks to be more the stuff of science fiction than useful technology for the masses.

Go ahead and do the homework. If you find more information, post it.
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Dan998 · Tar Sands Joined: Mar 07, 2005 Posts: 54

I just spoke with Jerry Decker who spent time with Richard Diggs.
Here's what he told me about Diggs.

Yes, I spent several hours with him...he is in his mid-80s but in good
shape with a sharp mind. I think he is absolutely right.

The confusion is thinking the electricity might become liquid, when it
would more accurately be the gas in which it is suspended which
liquifies, that is as low as he could get it with the equipment he had.

The term is phase change....gases can be turned into METAL using
supercold....but they turn into liquid before metal...thus a highly
charged gas, kept supercold and under great pressure, would first become liquid, then even metallic.

I have a book called the 7 Phases of Matter but on wikipedia they only show 4;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_(matter)

gases, liquids, solids, plasma

but I found a better complete one at;

http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070622020731AARmaJz

Solid
Liquid
Gas
Plasma
Superfluid
Supersolid
Bose-Einstein condensate
Fermionic condensate
String-net liquid
Supercritical fluid
Colloid
Degenerate matter

Which makes 12. These are the main ones but some of the ones above can be divided into more specific states.
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Again, it is nowhere near free energy...you have to charge them with a special generator but once charged, you can bleed the power off as fast as you want.

entropyfails · Moderator Joined: Jun 30, 2004 Posts: 608

Liquid Electricity?

You mean the old joke from early 1900's?

I don't believe Liquid Electricity but I do believe in the Liquid Schwartz! It is a well known scientific fact that you need Liquid Schwartz to attain the famous Ludicrous Speed in modern hyperdrive engines.

It would definitely violate a number of limits on all modern container materials to contain this much energy in such a small place. Work through the exact numbers if you wish but they don't turn out nicely. For a town of 400 you are talking around about 3 x 10^13 Joules of energy here... That's about 9x 10^9 J / cm ^3 of energy density. What the hell is he putting it in? High tech research capacitors are at like 50 or 100 J/cm^3.

I mean, it is good for a laugh but how can you seriously entertain this as a plausible idea? This isn't energy technology, it is a con.
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TreeFarmer · Heavy Crude Joined: Jun 26, 2007 Posts: 350

They've gone to PLAID!