hello

portuga · Coal Joined: May 27, 2008 Posts: 14

hello´i´m pedro from portugal, i´ve become peak oil aware 3 years ago... i´m very worried with the situation in my country and even more with the future of my son, i´m looking forward to participate in this forum. c ya

DantesPeak · Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: hello

Welcome.

While po.com is visited by interested persons around the world, in general, we in the US don't know much about the energy situation in Portugal because it doesn't appear in our usual media sources.

However if you post some facts about your situation in Portugal, that you want someone to comment about, you'll probably get some response at po.com.

Pops · Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: hello

Hi, Pedro, tell us how things look there.

Everything is connected today, your outlook helps us all.
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pstarr · Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: hello

didn't you post earlier and didn't we discuss alcohol?
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btu2012 · Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:38 am Post subject: Re: hello

portuga · Coal Joined: May 27, 2008 Posts: 14

thank u all for you replies
pstarr i´ve just registered and this was my first post along with one in the Europe forum asking if there was any concerned portuguese people here in the forums
i´ll start describing my view of the portuguese situation in the thread i´ve started in the Europe forum

anagami · Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: hello

Hello Pedro. I'm from Costa Rica and lived for about 6 months in Spain. Have some pie Smile

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Hogan · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Oct 25, 2004 Posts: 1298

Hello Pedro. Welcome. Life is now. Today. Try to live one day at a time and not overload too much on peak oil information. Smile

portuga · Coal Joined: May 27, 2008 Posts: 14

Salud a Costa Rica
yeah Drifter, i try not to overload too much on PO info:)
and i´ve quit talking about it to most my friends, they have absolute faith in technology and say i´m paranoid....

virgincrude · Heavy Crude Joined: Mar 09, 2006 Posts: 468

Pedro: I am in Southern Spain, have visited Lisbon a few times when I had a Portuguese boyfriend Rolling Eyes

First: don't panic about your child's future. My daughter was just 3 years old when I discovered PO and I went through some very dark times. Three years later, the crunch which is upon us is not directly due to PO and so I have some hopes it will not be the sudden catastrophic death of humanity which many on this forum predict.

One very important thing to bear in mind: this is a US oriented forum, the cultural viewpoints represented here are far away from those of Portugal or Southern Spain. Think about the social set up you have now: I bet your family unit is strong, you know and talk with your neighbours. You don't live in an isolated Austrian village where a man can kidnap and rape his own daughter for 20 years without anybody suspecting anything....

Social and cultural norms are strong indicators of the quality of life you might expect during the next 20 years. And while your child is growing up, since he/she will know nothing else, he will make the best of it and with your help, get along just fine.

portuga · Coal Joined: May 27, 2008 Posts: 14

hey virgincrude encantado:) i´m from the north, from Porto...
unfortunately i think the way u do, i´ve read several books, first about PO itself, and then about societies and biology, a lot of internet too of course... and i saddly think a collapse is inevitable... IMO we´ll face a massive extinction in which billions of people will die and i desperately hope i´m wrong...
As for this being an american forum, i also disagree that we´re that different, we have some advantages because 30 years ago Portugal and Spain were rural societies practically, and some old people still know how to do things without machines... but me myself i only practically push buttons for a living Smile

we´re on the same boat as the americans wether we like it or not and when america goes down, we´ll go down with them... i also don´t think that america is to blame for what goes wrong in the world as most europeans do...
Do u think we´re that much cohese social and culturally speaking?
look at bosnia, look at the french suburbs with cars on fire, look at immigrant gettos all over europe, look at football hooliganism right here in my city and pretty much everywhere, look ate ETA in the basque country, and the Ceuta and Mellilla situation....maybe everything will be fine... i just don´t believe it