Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: What's Growing in Your Garden RIGHT NOW.
my stealth gardening tactics on a dead end street in the midst of suburbia currently
cigarette butts (by the side of the house along our basement door, inedible) Dont know why they're (still) there but adds to the haphazard (ratty) nature of the place which is good
jerusalem artichokes (naturalized somewhere on the side in partial sun only. In the bank, also on woodland edges...)
orange day lilies (ditto - a large bed of them happens to be growing beyond the woods at the forest edge. They can compete with the JA's, somewhat safe from the deer)
potatoes (right outside my front door, in my flower garden, still planting more around the house for sweet dreams...)
corn (right next to the house yippee!!!)
wapato or indian potato - currently trying my hand at sprouting seeds, also am buying bulk tubers because sprouting might take 2 years (I guess need cold cycle then warm and cold cycle....?)
rampion / campanula rapunculos - sprouting seeds, looking for tubers then I'll be all set...
wild lettuce (forest edge - having great success with these)
dock (grows wherever and multiplying unexpectedly fast)
dandelions and chives in the lawn... (I still envy people with lots of them in their lawn - just havent had time to dig up and transplant roots over to where they should be :>)
english sorrel (they come up early and grow wonderfully, leaves get big in partial shade! And they make a really good soup. But cant eat them every day though...)
roses and violets are growing too
rhubard surprised me how well they do in a shady place. Its safe from deer
I listed the carbohydrates on the top... except for the cigs since I dont smoke. One less thing to worry about that during the long emergency thats just started. I considered growing tobacco for awhile but its not edible
Joined: May 20, 2008 Posts: 336 Location: Tennessee
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: What's Growing in Your Garden RIGHT NOW.
I figure this might be under an index, but since we're on the gardening subject here: I have some critter or insect (probably) nibbling on my cabbage leaves. I really hate dumping a bunch of chemicals on the garden if I can avoid it. Any more natural suggestions? Besides when certain products get less accessible we are going to need alternative ways to save our gardens from these nusances. (Yes, Pops, I enjoy the information and talking with gardening buddies too).
Joined: Oct 15, 2005 Posts: 1632 Location: Portland, Oregon
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: What's Growing in Your Garden RIGHT NOW.
I am very proud of my urban garden, be it ever so humble. We're able to eat as much salad and greens as we need for meals and have planted a ton of potatoes, cabbage, onions, garlic, tomatoes, peas and beans.
We're getting ready for our raspberry/blueberry/strawberry crop coming in. Oh and I aslo got my zuchinis, squashes and pumpkins going. I am realizing that I need to build up my soil a bit more with compost and winter crops but all in all its turning out to be the most successful year yet. I want to devote every square inch to food. I think we can become self-sufficient in everything but staples such as oats, wheat and rice.
I've got a mess of chickens for egg laying and next year I want to become a beekeeper and start really producing honey. Maybe I can trade some extra honey for some of those staples down the road...
Joined: Jan 01, 2007 Posts: 243 Location: Pacific Northwest
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: Re: What's Growing in Your Garden RIGHT NOW.
Wild Rose,
I have not got fruit from either the Goumi Berries or Honey Berries yet. So I cant attest to how good they are.
I planted the Goumi Berries last year and they flowered this spring, so it looks like I will get my first fruit this year. Hear is a link to the place I bought them from with a picture and some facts.
Like many fruits you need to have at least two separate varieties in order two get good fruit. Not sure why, but it is probably true. I bought two different Paw Paws two years ago and one of them died on me. So far no fruit from the survivor, guess I need to get another one.
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:59 am Post subject: Re: What's Growing in Your Garden RIGHT NOW.
Thanks, Careinke. I had never heard of either berry before. I'm finding out that there are many plants that could grow in my area that I've been unfamiliar with!
The honey berry (native to Siberia and Japan) looks like a good possibility for my growing area (zone 3a). I planted raspberries, which I know will do well in central/northern Alberta, 3 varieties in total. I wasn't aware that I needed 2 varieties to produce good fruit, just picked 3 different ones so that I'd end up with fruit at different times during the summer. There's so much to learn!
Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 13170 Location: naive idiot fantasy world
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: Re: What's Growing in Your Garden RIGHT NOW.
mystiek wrote:
I have some critter or insect (probably) nibbling on my cabbage leaves. I really hate dumping a bunch of chemicals on the garden if I can avoid it. Any more natural suggestions?
I don't do anything about "pests" because they are a sign something isn't right in the microenvironment. There's an imbalance in the nutrients, or the plant isn't getting enough water (or getting too much). This causes more nitrates to form in the tissues which attracts insects. So the critters are telling you conditions aren't optimum for your plants. In my garden I've been having a heck of a time with shield bugs infesting all the leaf vegetables, especially collards. They get worse when the plants are dry, and calm down after I water. This is a drought year so it's been difficult to keep the moisture level where it should be.
I sometimes pick a few bugs off plants and feed them to the chickens, but usually I don't do anything about them. If there are holes in the vegetables, I can still eat them.
Check on the undersides of the leaves for cabbage loopers (green caterpillars); you can usually keep up with these by picking them off every day or so. _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow." - jboogy
Joined: May 20, 2008 Posts: 336 Location: Tennessee
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: Re: What's Growing in Your Garden RIGHT NOW.
It really didn't start until after I mulched the garden with straw about 1 week ago-I'll peek under the mulch tonight and see if its too moist or dry. Thanks!
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: What's Growing in Your Garden RIGHT NOW.
Ludi wrote:
mystiek wrote:
I have some critter or insect (probably) nibbling on my cabbage leaves. I really hate dumping a bunch of chemicals on the garden if I can avoid it. Any more natural suggestions?
I don't do anything about "pests" because they are a sign something isn't right in the microenvironment. There's an imbalance in the nutrients, or the plant isn't getting enough water (or getting too much). This causes more nitrates to form in the tissues which attracts insects. So the critters are telling you conditions aren't optimum for your plants. In my garden I've been having a heck of a time with shield bugs infesting all the leaf vegetables, especially collards. They get worse when the plants are dry, and calm down after I water. This is a drought year so it's been difficult to keep the moisture level where it should be.
I sometimes pick a few bugs off plants and feed them to the chickens, but usually I don't do anything about them. If there are holes in the vegetables, I can still eat them.
Check on the undersides of the leaves for cabbage loopers (green caterpillars); you can usually keep up with these by picking them off every day or so.
I've had a great deal of sucess spraying plants with harpin (Messenger) as it increases their resistance to disease and predation and is a naturally occuring plant hormone.
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: What's Growing in Your Garden RIGHT NOW.
mystiek wrote:
I have some critter or insect (probably) nibbling on my cabbage leaves. I really hate dumping a bunch of chemicals on the garden if I can avoid it. Any more natural suggestions?
On another forum, someone said that once they put up wren nests and the birds found them, they've had very few problems. The wrens take care of everything from potato beetles to cabbage worms.
Until you can get a nesting box up, you could try BT (Dipel) as an organic solution.
Oh. And make sure the nest box is specifically for wrens or the nasty non-natives will take over (like English Sparrows).
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:48 am Post subject: Re: What's Growing in Your Garden RIGHT NOW.
newbie here...hi everyone from Tennessee. We have lots of clay here so it's taken 4-5 years to get the soil really good. I have horses so they helped donate the manure. I compost everything except meat & dairy from the house too. This year I went to raised beds. (12 4'x30' and 12 4'x20')
here's what's growing well now...
asparagus
strawberries
tomatoes
basil
thyme
lemon basil
rosemary
cucumber
potatoes
sweet potatoes
green are almost over with (lettuces & spinach)
squash
onions (white & red)
Brussels sprouts
swiss chard
rhubarb
peas (alaska, snow & english)
pole beans (kentucky wonder)
corn & yellow squash planted in a square (5 rows)
last year I planted 2 fruit trees that are still pretty small (apple & pear)
on my way there now to weed...gotta go!
Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Posts: 1136 Location: Central Texas
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: What's Growing in Your Garden RIGHT NOW.
I went out to the garden this morning to see if I needed to eat another dozen cherry tomatoes, and I did, and noticed the potato plant in the big pot had dried up and all the leaves were dead.
Well so much for that potato plant, I thought, so I emptied the soil out of the pot and guess what made my day?
Very cool. Two Russet spuds weighing in at 568 grams!
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Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Posts: 1136 Location: Central Texas
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: What's Growing in Your Garden RIGHT NOW.
Just wanted to add that I removed about 3 "spudlets" from one of the potatoes and replanted those in the same pot with more compost, mulch, and a little sandy loam and watered thoroughly.
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