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 Post subject: Re: Another Record ($139.16)
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People act like $80 oil would solve EVERYTHING.

AFAIK, the interstates, roads, buildings and [most of the] consumer junk we're so fond of were all manufactured using sub-$20 oil. Cheap credit has allowed us to think we're "resilient" in the face of high oil. History will see to it that this was not the case.

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Bush might try to keep power by pulling this one off. I've been worried about this.

Think Obama might get assassinated too? The powers that be (international bankers) wanted Hillary or McCain in my opinion.

We live in scary times.

Hence $139 WTIC!!!...


Scary, yes, but not for the reasons you think they are.

Nobody is in charge. Nobody is controlling anything. There are no Illuminati. The course of events is not being directed by anybody.

It's all random. That's the scariest scenario of all, isn't it? That's what conspiracy theorists can't handle. That's what they're really afraid of.



Hardly. The way they deal with PO is to stage a false flag op, attack and then control oil producing countries. Quite simple, actually.


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Zardoz wrote:
It's all random. That's the scariest scenario of all, isn't it? That's what conspiracy theorists can't handle. That's what they're really afraid of.


I share this view. Everything I've seen and learned support it. It's beyond human capabilities to understand today's world.

Yes, there is a lot of secret manipulation by various powerful actors which have physical consequences, but the consequences are mainly unintentional. They don't understand the world they are manipulating.

People involved in money and banking centers are monitoring a set of metrics they don't announce, but they are mostly reacting according to rules-of-thumb which has evolved during hundreds of years, and they change the rules all the time to save the system. The only predictable net result of all this is just boring inflation, and hardly mastery of the world.


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Armageddon wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
chuck6877 wrote:
Bush might try to keep power by pulling this one off. I've been worried about this.

Think Obama might get assassinated too? The powers that be (international bankers) wanted Hillary or McCain in my opinion.

We live in scary times.

Hence $139 WTIC!!!...


Scary, yes, but not for the reasons you think they are.

Nobody is in charge. Nobody is controlling anything. There are no Illuminati. The course of events is not being directed by anybody.

It's all random. That's the scariest scenario of all, isn't it? That's what conspiracy theorists can't handle. That's what they're really afraid of.



Hardly. The way they deal with PO is to stage a false flag op, attack and then control oil producing countries. Quite simple, actually.


Maybe, but the degree of success can easily be assessed by monitoring the oil price...


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MacG wrote:
Armageddon wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
chuck6877 wrote:
Bush might try to keep power by pulling this one off. I've been worried about this.

Think Obama might get assassinated too? The powers that be (international bankers) wanted Hillary or McCain in my opinion.

We live in scary times.

Hence $139 WTIC!!!...


Scary, yes, but not for the reasons you think they are.

Nobody is in charge. Nobody is controlling anything. There are no Illuminati. The course of events is not being directed by anybody.

It's all random. That's the scariest scenario of all, isn't it? That's what conspiracy theorists can't handle. That's what they're really afraid of.



Hardly. The way they deal with PO is to stage a false flag op, attack and then control oil producing countries. Quite simple, actually.


Maybe, but the degree of success can easily be assessed by monitoring the oil price...


Those in energy stocks are quite happy. :) (everyone in Bush's rolodex, for instance)

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MacG wrote:
Armageddon wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
chuck6877 wrote:
Bush might try to keep power by pulling this one off. I've been worried about this.

Think Obama might get assassinated too? The powers that be (international bankers) wanted Hillary or McCain in my opinion.

We live in scary times.

Hence $139 WTIC!!!...


Scary, yes, but not for the reasons you think they are.

Nobody is in charge. Nobody is controlling anything. There are no Illuminati. The course of events is not being directed by anybody.

It's all random. That's the scariest scenario of all, isn't it? That's what conspiracy theorists can't handle. That's what they're really afraid of.



Hardly. The way they deal with PO is to stage a false flag op, attack and then control oil producing countries. Quite simple, actually.


Maybe, but the degree of success can easily be assessed by monitoring the oil price...



I do believe the central bankers worst fear is PO. When Amshel Rothschild set his plan into action ( control the money of the worlds governments ), PO was not even heard of, heck oil wasn't even discovered yet. But I guarentee that they are PO aware, considering the Rockefellers are in it with them.

Amschel had 5 sons, 4 of whom he sent to the major cities of four different major powers of Europe, to establish or gain control over the major central bank of each country. Solomon went to Vienna, Austria; Nathan to London, England; Carl to Naples, Italy; James to Paris, France; while Meyer (and Amschel) stayed in Frankfurt, Germany. In addition to these major countries of Germany, Austria, England, Italy and France, the Rothschilds did extensive banking for the governments of Belgium, Spain, Brazil, and many other countries. This was all part of Amschel's plan to gain control over vast wealth and power.

Thomas Jefferson issued this warning in 1791: "If the American people ever allow the banks to control issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their forefathers conquered."

Rothschild said, "Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes its laws",


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MacG wrote:
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It's all random. That's the scariest scenario of all, isn't it? That's what conspiracy theorists can't handle. That's what they're really afraid of.


I share this view. Everything I've seen and learned support it. It's beyond human capabilities to understand today's world.

Yes, there is a lot of secret manipulation by various powerful actors which have physical consequences, but the consequences are mainly unintentional. They don't understand the world they are manipulating.

People involved in money and banking centers are monitoring a set of metrics they don't announce, but they are mostly reacting according to rules-of-thumb which has evolved during hundreds of years, and they change the rules all the time to save the system. The only predictable net result of all this is just boring inflation, and hardly mastery of the world.
^^^^Im in this camp.



But in more news

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Nymex trading in crude oil, heating oil and gasoline on the Globex electronic system was ``briefly halted'' and resumed around 1:15 p.m. New York time because heating oil reached its limit move for the session, said Brenda Guzman, a spokeswoman for the exchange.

The limits, which govern maximum price moves, up or down, were doubled for the remainder of the electronic session, she said. Crude oil's limit rose to $20, natural gas to $6 and heating oil and gasoline rose to 50 cents


link Looks like they moved the goal posts....


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Armageddon wrote:
Rothschild said, "Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes its laws",


Yea, sure, banking is a racket, but if coal and oil had not been around the scheme had crashed after 20-30 years. They might have been able to restart it a couple of times, but people would have understood the wickedness already in the 1800's and rolled them in tar and feathers. Coal and then oil made growth possible, and honestly, it was not only the bankers who enjoyed the ride - most people partied on quite happily.


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Those in energy stocks are quite happy. :) (everyone in Bush's rolodex, for instance)


Oh, they are happy in about the same way a freezing person is happy the first seconds after p*ssing in his pants...


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Those in energy stocks are quite happy. :) (everyone in Bush's rolodex, for instance)


Oh, they are happy in about the same way a freezing person is happy the first seconds after p*ssing in his pants...


I'm pretty sure anyone with an oil tanker named after them isn't worried about dying of hypothermia. 8)

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<snip> the rest of us, OTOH...


"When the game is over, the king and the pawns are returned to the same box"

Tankers don't grow on trees and they can not be built by analphabets - it takes loads of middle class engineers to get them built and running. The same goes for drilling rigs and refineries. And just about everything else needed to keep the wheels on this world turning. The interdependencies are not possible to chart or understand.


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<snip> the rest of us, OTOH...


"When the game is over, the king and the pawns are returned to the same box"

Tankers don't grow on trees and they can not be built by analphabets - it takes loads of middle class engineers to get them built and running. The same goes for drilling rigs and refineries. And just about everything else needed to keep the wheels on this world turning. The interdependencies are not possible to chart or understand.


98,000 acres in Paraguay and satellite phones = autonomy, if you can get it.

The Rockerfellers and Rothchilds of the world won't be intermingling in the town square for the leftover crumbs.

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Tankers don't grow on trees and they can not be built by analphabets - it takes loads of middle class engineers to get them built and running.


Sweet, got a fancy new vocabulary word along with all this economic/geopolitical insanity. Thanks Mac!

Agree with Zar, too. The highest ups can only push things so far; don't think they're really on top of things either. They get to steer the ship, but if the iceberg's dead ahead...all they have in their favor is the insight to dress up as a woman/child/spaceman/Indian/sort of idealized vision of late renaissance man.

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.all they have in their favor is the insight to dress up as a woman/child/spaceman/Indian/sort of idealized vision of late renaissance man.


I think it was posted on another thread and sorry for no reference... all they have left is Cultural Marxism. They pit us against ourselves. Blacks hate Whites, Chinese vs. Japanese and on and on. The concept of the proletariat vs. the establishment has been played in last century and now it seems they need a racial divide to keep the producing class from their throats. I'm not sure if that was where you were going so I'm sorry if I misunderstand your comment. You know, it's a surreal world when you live amongst such a concentration of illegal aliens and hate it but at the same time see them as your brothers... pulled from all directions...

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woah. I went to bed last night, and oil was like $122-ish?, wake up today and oil is $138.54. If mere talk about war can cause a jump like this, what will an actual war do? I shudder to think.


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