Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 1583 Location: Nez Perce Nation
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: SHTF IN YOUR LOCALITY
You know MadPaddy, it's just no fair that you've got sunny skies there in rainy ol' Ireland while over here in sunny Idaho we've had nothing but gray skies and rain for weeks.
You're kids are looking cuter than ever. Have you posted anymore vids of them singing? If not, please do. _________________ "Modern Agriculture is the use of land to convert petroleum into food."
-- Albert Bartlett
"It will be a dark time. But for those who survive, I suspect it will be rather exciting."
-- James Lovelock
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: SHTF IN YOUR LOCALITY
Thanks Domus,
We have had a couple of lovely days here all right. We call it exam weather. All students do their exams (in college and high school) between mid May and Mid June. The weather is invariably good and turns to crap as soon as the pens are put down in the final exam.
The kids have turned away from singing for the moment and seem to be more interested in wrestling and beating down the nettles in the garden with wooden swords.
Anyway, things are sinking quite quickly here in Ireland but of course we still have a long way to go before we are even as badly off as we were in the late 1980's. I'll try and persuade Caelan to perform one of his favourites "The rare Old Times" for another youtube clip.
All the best,
MP _________________ www.askaboutenergy.com
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 1583 Location: Nez Perce Nation
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: SHTF IN YOUR LOCALITY
MP, here's no of my favorite songs. Written by an American (Stephen Foster) but here sung by your own Mary Black.
An appropriate tune for the Post Peak Oil future:
Hard Times Come Again No More _________________ "Modern Agriculture is the use of land to convert petroleum into food."
-- Albert Bartlett
"It will be a dark time. But for those who survive, I suspect it will be rather exciting."
-- James Lovelock
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:35 am Post subject: Re: SHTF IN YOUR LOCALITY
Well, within 4 years my rent has doubled and food/ gas are more expensive. Hell, a person could work 2 jobs and still not afford to pay the rent. Bloody hell _________________ We are the Borg. Resistance is futile. Your culture will adapt to service ours. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:58 am Post subject: Re: SHTF IN YOUR LOCALITY
I posted this on another thread and then realized this was a better spot, but yeah, I'm seeing changes in my neighborhood.
1) This morning, went to a popular breakfast eatery with my husband. This place is in a real trendy area where the downtown professionals live and work. I've been there nine times in the last two years. Each time, the place is packed. - at breakfast!! The prices are steep and our basic breakfast for two was $26. Today, the restaurant was *empty*. Eventually two other diners (single people) entered. Several waitresses stood behind the counter looking bored.
2) After breakfast, I went to the local grocery store. They were out of broccoli - no fresh broccoli to be found. In the past, I've found organic broccoli, local broccoli, shrink-wrapped broccoli and rubber-band bound broccoli. It's popular around here. Today, no broccoli.
3) While the rest of the store looked well-stocked, the produce department had several empty bins. In the places that did have veggies, you could see the black bottom of the bins, because the bins were almost empty. There were only one or two handfuls of many items.
Truckers strikes haven't even started in this area, so I'm surprised to see them almost out of things. It's a puzzle.
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:14 am Post subject: Re: SHTF IN YOUR LOCALITY
hope_full, Very interesting point about broccoli. My local store which is the Irish equivalent of Walmart has been out of bananas for the last few days. This would be unheard of normally. Also, I run my car off vegetable oil which has gone from €0.68 to €0.99 in the last month but now is just unavailable.
We should not be surprised though. We have been talking about and predicting this course of events on this website for years. Just a bit of a shock to see it all unfolding. Unfortunately, the more dire predictions of the doomers on this site will also probably unfold in the next few years. _________________ www.askaboutenergy.com
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: Re: SHTF IN YOUR LOCALITY
hope_full wrote:
I posted this on another thread and then realized this was a better spot, but yeah, I'm seeing changes in my neighborhood.
1) This morning, went to a popular breakfast eatery with my husband. This place is in a real trendy area where the downtown professionals live and work. I've been there nine times in the last two years. Each time, the place is packed. - at breakfast!! The prices are steep and our basic breakfast for two was $26. Today, the restaurant was *empty*. Eventually two other diners (single people) entered. Several waitresses stood behind the counter looking bored.
2) After breakfast, I went to the local grocery store. They were out of broccoli - no fresh broccoli to be found. In the past, I've found organic broccoli, local broccoli, shrink-wrapped broccoli and rubber-band bound broccoli. It's popular around here. Today, no broccoli.
3) While the rest of the store looked well-stocked, the produce department had several empty bins. In the places that did have veggies, you could see the black bottom of the bins, because the bins were almost empty. There were only one or two handfuls of many items.
Truckers strikes haven't even started in this area, so I'm surprised to see them almost out of things. It's a puzzle.
Welcome to the apocalypse. If you didn't get ready for it by preparing 6 months of food, then you shouldn't complain. Also did you drive there in your big-arse SUV?
Joined: Mar 10, 2007 Posts: 89 Location: eastern Washington state
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:49 am Post subject: Re: SHTF IN YOUR LOCALITY
Nothing visible in Spokane, WA. Most folks are saying the "recession" will pass.
Spokaloo is a very typical small city and I think by the time we see any big differences here, EVERYONE else will have sped ahead of us in change. We have almost no public transportation, so I am surprised there's no noticeable change in traffic patterns. _________________ Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, set fire to him, and he'll be warm the rest of his life. - Terry Pratchett
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 1583 Location: Nez Perce Nation
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:55 am Post subject: Re: SHTF IN YOUR LOCALITY
ShinyOldLady wrote:
Nothing visible in Spokane, WA. Most folks are saying the "recession" will pass.
Spokaloo is a very typical small city and I think by the time we see any big differences here, EVERYONE else will have sped ahead of us in change. We have almost no public transportation, so I am surprised there's no noticeable change in traffic patterns.
Hey, Shiny. We escaped from Spokane three years ago; lived by Manito Park. I've never thought of the place as a "typical small city". When the ol' S does really hit the blades Spokane will have major problems. Too many lower income families with just a thin layer of well to do people.
Envy, Rage, Revenge, Oh My! _________________ "Modern Agriculture is the use of land to convert petroleum into food."
-- Albert Bartlett
"It will be a dark time. But for those who survive, I suspect it will be rather exciting."
-- James Lovelock
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: Re: SHTF IN YOUR LOCALITY
DomusAlbion wrote:
ShinyOldLady wrote:
Nothing visible in Spokane, WA. Most folks are saying the "recession" will pass.
Spokaloo is a very typical small city and I think by the time we see any big differences here, EVERYONE else will have sped ahead of us in change. We have almost no public transportation, so I am surprised there's no noticeable change in traffic patterns.
Hey, Shiny. We escaped from Spokane three years ago; lived by Manito Park. I've never thought of the place as a "typical small city". When the ol' S does really hit the blades Spokane will have major problems. Too many lower income families with just a thin layer of well to do people.
Envy, Rage, Revenge, Oh My!
Peasants with pitchforks? Will they do to the well-to-do what the Soviet peasants did to the kulaks? I leave it to your knowledge of history to figure out what happened there...
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:32 am Post subject: Re: SHTF IN YOUR LOCALITY
Quote:
Welcome to the apocalypse. If you didn't get ready for it by preparing 6 months of food, then you shouldn't complain. Also did you drive there in your big-arse SUV?
Uh, back up the anger-management truck here, mister. I was answering a post, not complaining about local conditions.
And as to your next statement, are you assuming that just because I'm a married woman that I'm driving a big-arse SUV? Perhaps you'd have a lot more fun at another forum, like misogynist.com.
Yeesh, I didn't realize this was a male-only forum.
And to answer your question, I bet my vehicle gets better mileage than your vehicle. So there.
HF
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: SHTF IN YOUR LOCALITY
went to wallyworld day before yesterday and got two (more) 25 pound sacks of jasmin rice (10.99). Wife came home with 50 dollars yesterday and said don't you think we ought to go buy some more food. Told her "no, we have so much and it needs to rotate out..." Her friend called last night from wallyworld and said the same bag of rice was now 16.99.
Frito Lay vendor said today that they are having a potatoe shortage.
Everything in produce went up this morning (15 pound bag russets 6.49 from 4.29, etc.) (Wed. is price change day in the grocery business)
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: SHTF IN YOUR LOCALITY
SW New Mexico, small town. Bookmobile service stopped, one of two local gas stations is rumored to be closing. Many more motorcycles on the road..my son says he wants to trade his small pickup in for one. Large gardens this year...some community gardening going on. Conversations with folks indicate to me a general awareness that things are not going very well. I tell them about peak oil and most understand.
Joined: May 07, 2008 Posts: 240 Location: Chaska, MN
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: SHTF IN YOUR LOCALITY
JJ wrote:
went to wallyworld day before yesterday and got two (more) 25 pound sacks of jasmin rice (10.99). Wife came home with 50 dollars yesterday and said don't you think we ought to go buy some more food. Told her "no, we have so much and it needs to rotate out..." Her friend called last night from wallyworld and said the same bag of rice was now 16.99.
Frito Lay vendor said today that they are having a potato shortage.
Everything in produce went up this morning (15 pound bag russets 6.49 from 4.29, etc.) (Wed. is price change day in the grocery business)
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