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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico collapse watch thread
It's an unspoken signal that he/she's a racist, hence not in need of goading. Or worth having attention paid to. _________________ Cogito, ergo non satis bibivi
I will not abide another toe.
Joined: Apr 08, 2006 Posts: 1334 Location: Somewhere there
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico collapse watch thread
Well may be his salary/income is cut a bit too far thanks to Hispanics? May be he is a construction worker or something.
By the way have anyone wondered how much time nationwide is lost due to "For English, press 1; para Espanol, presione 2"
Per day? Per month? Per year? Per lifetime?
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:54 am Post subject: Re: Mexico collapse watch thread
Mexico sees lower oil exports for 2008
MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexico's average oil exports will remain well below target all year, and beneath last year's levels, due to lower crude production, the head of state oil monopoly Pemex said on Wednesday.
Pemex Chief Executive Jesus Reyes Heroles said the state-run company's oil exports were headed for an average of 1.40 million to 1.45 million barrels per day over 2008, around 15 percent below a goal set in Mexico's 2008 budget of 1.683 million bpd.
I wonder when we will start to see significant budget cuts or tax increases to compensate for reduced income. With the price of oil skyrocketing, the effects of the decline are being hidden from Mexico's finances. But come 2010 or so, when they cease to be an exporter, watch out. _________________ One of these now am I too, a fugitive from the gods and a wanderer, at the mercy of raging Strife.
--Empedocles
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:47 am Post subject: Re: Mexico collapse watch thread
johhnytrash wrote:
vetusfirma wrote:
I don't speak spanish, the language of the oppressor, but I do know a good story in English, the language of the people who defeated the oppressors.
Just going on the dictionary definition of your words, I don't understand how Spanish is the language of the oppressor. Can you clue me in?
The Spanish Empire was very oppressive. Just about every Latin American country have festivals celebrating their independence from Spain.
In Mexico, every city has several streets dedicated to their independence from Spain. Its a big time part of their national consciousness.
The war against the English was a major factor in the Spanish empire's collapse. We have historically congratulated ourselves for this feat. We have historically seen ourselves as superior since we were (at the time) one of the most progressive nations in Europe in limiting the power of the crown, while Spain was firmly ruled from the throne.
Not that the ensuing English Empire was any better, mind.
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico collapse watch thread
Kaj wrote:
Not that the ensuing English Empire was any better, mind.
Well, the British Empire WAS better. In all "our" colonies we gave law & order, built railways, infrastructure, everybody prospered.
Look at Rhodesia in the 60's, the breadbasket of Africa, no trouble, no hunger, self sufficient & food exporter, a fine country many people emigrated to.
Look at Zimbabwe today, a hell hole, run by a despot
What about the red indians you lot killed ??? (assuming your a yank).
No country has a squeaky clean history, least so the British. BUT on the whole, all the individual countries gained much more than they lost under our stewardship. India is now the largest democracy in the world, with a system of government modelled on the British example.
If I had my way we Brits would do it all again. We can't, so its now America's turn to police the world. Are you up to it ???.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Mexico collapse watch thread
Gasmon, you Brits have got to start small. My advice: invade France. When you and France were perpetually at war with each other you both became more and more powerful until you were the most powerful nations on Earth. _________________ One of these now am I too, a fugitive from the gods and a wanderer, at the mercy of raging Strife.
--Empedocles
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico collapse watch thread
GASMON wrote:
...
If I had my way we Brits would do it all again. We can't, so its now America's turn to police the world. Are you up to it ???.
Actually NO we're bankrupt.
We invested the last remaining amount of our resources into something called "suburbia".
The investment right now is starting to turn more into a liability than an asset.
My gut tells me once the world gets a taste of Russian + Chinese rule they will deeply miss the good old days of American rule.
//
I think collapse should be looked at in a relative term. If Mexico drops by 1 notch but the USA drops by 2 notches than I think the Mexicans would figure out, it makes more sense just to stay in Mexico.
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Mexico collapse watch thread
House approves aid to Mexico drug war
By STEWART M. POWELL
WASHINGTON — Brushing aside objections by Houston-area Republicans, the House on Tuesday approved bipartisan legislation authorizing $1.1 billion in emergency assistance to Mexico over three years to combat drug traffickers.
The Democratic-controlled House adopted the White House-backed Merida Initiative on a vote of 311-106.
Separate legislation necessary for spending the funds is winding its way through Congress.
The measure has stirred controversy since President Bush and Mexican President Felipe Calderon came up with the idea at their summit in the Mexican city of Merida last year. The plan would provide unprecedented U.S. assistance to Mexico, ranging from military equipment such as helicopters and encrypted communications to training of police.
Escalating drug-gang violence has killed an estimated 4,000 Mexicans over the past 18 months, prompting Calderon to deploy some 30,000 soldiers and federal police along the border and elsewhere.
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: Re: Mexico collapse watch thread
Macabre drug cartel messages in Mexico
Some of the communications intended for rivals, officials and the public have accompanied severed heads and been written on bodies.
By Ken Ellingwood, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
June 11, 2008
MEXICO CITY -- In case decapitating their victims and dumping the heads in picnic coolers didn't make the point, the killers left a note.
"This is a warning," it said, listing an alphabet soup of Mexican police agencies and the noms de guerre of several well-known drug figures. "You get what you deserve."
The message, scrawled on a poster in black ink, accompanied four severed human heads that Mexican authorities recently found on a highway in the northern state of Durango.
The same day, police in neighboring Chihuahua state came upon five swaddled bodies accompanied by a hand- lettered placard.
"This is what happens to stupid traitors who take sides with Chapo Guzman," said the message found in Ciudad Juarez, referring to Joaquin "Shorty" Guzman, the supposed leader of the main drug gang in adjacent Sinaloa state.
The killers closed with incongruous propriety: "Yours truly," they signed off, "La Linea."
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Often, government forces are the target audience. A recent poster mocked army troops on patrol, calling them "little lead soldiers."
In the border cities of Nuevo Laredo and Reynosa, in the state of Tamaulipas, neatly painted banners appeared this spring advertising jobs in the Zetas, one of the country's most fearsome crime groups.
The banners, addressed to "soldiers or ex-soldiers," offered "good wages, food and help for your family."
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Ciudad Juarez residents have reason to take anonymous warnings seriously. In January, someone threatened city police by posting the names of 17 officers on a monument to fallen officers. Three of those listed were already dead.
By mid-May, about half of those listed had been killed, including the city's No. 2 police official, who was peppered with automatic-weapons fire one night as he returned home.
The messages keep on coming. Late last month, two hand-scrawled banners appeared in the Chihuahua state capital, also called Chihuahua. Signed by a group calling itself Gente Nueva, or New People, the banners listed the names of 21 state police officers.
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