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roccman
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 Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:43 am Post subject: THE State of Idaho Thread (merged) |
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YWarren Buffet Proposes Nuke Plant in Idaho
ou think he has read Richard Duncan's Olduvai Cliff Theory? I think he has: link
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golem
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:19 am Post subject: Re: Warren Buffet Proposes Nuke Plant in Idaho |
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| Quote: | The Olduvai Theory divides human history into three phases. The first "pre-industrial" phase stretches over most of human history when simple tools and weak machines limited economic growth. The second "industrial" phase encompasses modern industrial civilization where machines temporarily lift all limits to growth. The final "de-industrial" phase follows where industrial economies decline to a period of equilibrium with nonrenewable resources and the natural environment.[3]
The decline of the industrial phase is broken into three sections.
* The Olduvai slope (1979–1999) - Energy per capita 'declined at 0.33 %/year'
* The Olduvai slide (2000–2011) - 'begins in 2000 with the escalating warfare in the Middle East... marks the all-time peak of world oil production'.
* The Olduvai cliff (2012–2030) - 'begins in 2012 when an epidemic of permanent blackouts spreads worldwide, i.e. first there are waves of brownouts and temporary blackouts, then finally the electric power networks themselves expire' |
Interesting theory. This is the first time I had heard about the herd being driven over the edge and into the Olduvai Gorge? 
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bonehead
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: Re: Warren Buffet Proposes Nuke Plant in Idaho |
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Any oil shale in Idaho?Maybe he's thinking about using it for that too.
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seahorse2
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:30 am Post subject: Re: Warren Buffet Proposes Nuke Plant in Idaho |
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Golem, If you aren't familiar with the Olduvai Theory, we have our own thread at PO.Com tracking it: Review of the Olduvai Gorge
The intent of the thread was to track evidence of it unfolding. As you will see in the first pages of the thread, people wanted to just debate the theory. But as you get into the thread, eventually it gets back on point to linking news articles on various electricity issues. |
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duke
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: Prepping in Idaho... |
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Coming out in Idaho...to say HI.
Possible real tough times ahead is no new news to us. Prepping is just part of our country lifestyle. Glad to see another site revealing some truth about this crazy world.... Keep prepping to survive, a word to the wise is sufficient. |
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Hagakure_Leofman
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:33 am Post subject: Re: Prepping in Idaho... |
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Welcome to peakoil.com Duke. Hello from Australia  |
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DomusAlbion
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Prepping in Idaho... |
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Welcome to Peak Oil, Duke.
What part of Idaho are you in? We live between Lewiston and Orofino.
DA
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Lumpy
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Prepping in Idaho... |
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Greetings, Duke!
We have been developing our small (7.5 acres) farm in Western Idaho (about 1/2 hour from Lewiston) for 3 years now. Neither of us had done this before, learned almost everything we knew going in from what we read, and the internet. Have made many laughable mistakes, and many not-so-laughable ones.
Our land had been sorely neglected for many, many years before we bought it. No one bothered to tell us that the lovely, lacey growth (8-10 feet tall) all over it was poison hemlock! Just one of the many challenges we have faced.
It is now becoming a family farm, with 5 new family members from two younger generations (ages 2 to 34) moving in with us within the past 10 days. We had hoped for this for a long time -- and not realized that we were not really prepared the way we should have been for this coming together, either!
But we are all bumping along, and the group effort is starting to come together (albeit slowly). Fortunately, we are all like-minded in terms of need for preps, where the world is headed, and our basic values and beliefs. That all helps.
Anyway, would like to learn more about you. As DA said above, where are you in Idaho?
Lumpy
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Ferretlover
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: Re: Prepping in Idaho... |
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Welcome, Duke, to PO.com! Please read as much as you can when you can, and don't forget to check the archives when you have time. Please feel free to ask questions as the need arises.
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duke
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:13 am Post subject: From Idaho.... |
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| Thanks for the nice emails. We would love to hear from any and all off you preppers within a days drive or so from North Idaho!!!! Keep up the good work, till then. |
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ShinyOldLady
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: From Idaho.... |
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Howdy from Spokane/eastern Washington! There's lots of preppers in our area, but very few of us are in touch. As time goes by and things become more apparent, that might change.
In my experience, most fall within either the well-to-do elite, and the rest of us average joes. That distinction surely is apparent in most group situations. I've found that the well off don't seem to want much to do with those of us who are not, but keep your mind open, we have skills and adaptability that should come in handy.
We do have a greet and meet being set up for August in Moses lake area. Might you be interested?
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oowolf
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: From Idaho.... |
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| Sanders County, MT. There are a lot more PO preppers around than you might think. |
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mlit
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: From Idaho.... |
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I spent about 20 years near sandpoint but left for work. Hoping to return some day
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duke
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: Re: From Idaho.... |
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Hi Shinyoldlady,
Could you please explain what you mean by using term like "elite well-to-do" and "just us joes"?
There are those that have accomplished in balance what it takes and those that have done little, but think they know a lot, have great plans and intent for the future someday.
I can only guess what you are driving at, so please explain so I can better understand.
Meanwhile we are still seeking to visit with other well perpared folks in our north Idaho region. Waiting until things become apparent can also easily leave you with a crashed internet site and no emails as well. To late then, just like it is to late then to gather up all you might need. |
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duke
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Prepping in Idaho... |
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Thank you for the nice postings:).
We will be checking in from time to time as we continue to search for other well prepared couples in our region, to communicate with.
Hopefully we can make some friends here as this site is geared around folks that see a cloud on the horizon...so to speak. |
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