NATO faces critical battle in Afghanistan

virgincrude · Heavy Crude Joined: Mar 09, 2006 Posts: 468

Cid:

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I bet Musharraf has been buying oil with Euros. The last guy who did that was named Saddam, and he didn't fare too well.

Or else India has been doing some heavy duty bribing. India would make out like a bandit if Pakistan was taken down a notch.

I can't see any other reasons for NATO to go after a nuclear power (which Pakistan is; they make Iran look like a three year old with a squirt gun).
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Pakistan vows to defend sovereignty after Karzai threat

Pakistan has warned it will not tolerate any violations of its borders.

Pakistani Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gillani said, "Neither do we interfere in anyone else's matters, nor will we allow anyone to interfere in our territorial limits and our affairs."

Pakistan's foreign office pledged that the country would defend its territorial sovereignty, state media said Monday.

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ECM · Heavy Crude Joined: Feb 09, 2005 Posts: 227

So, a guy that has enough problems controlling a city let alone a country is going to invade the territory of another country with 5 times the population and nuclear weapons.

Pehaps he should send in Bill Murray and the cast from Stripes.

Roy

ECM, I thought exactly the same thing. The mouse threatens the elephant.

I bet the Pakis are just quaking in their boots right about now.

virgincrude · Heavy Crude Joined: Mar 09, 2006 Posts: 468

You should take into account the fact that Karzai is the American stooge here, they've practically lost their stooge in Pakistan although I believe Azari, the de facto head of the fragile government (Bhutto's widower) is their agent. When Karzai speaks, he is using a script, everybody in the region knows this. The Pakistanis are aware of the US designs to get ground troops on their soil, effectively surrounding Iran with forces and allowing an extension of Iraq and Afgfhanistan-like military strikes both in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Karzai is the Mayor of Kabul, he controlls precisely nothing and represents himself, his family and his business interests. However, he provides an excellent excuse for US troops (in the guise of NATO) to perform murderous incursions into Pakistani territory, something they are itching to do. In fact, they're already doing it, but the media black out is rather effective.

Taghayee · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: Taliban Prison Break

something to ponder about-

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The North Atlantic Treaty Organization is facing its most serious threat since the end of the cold war as the Taliban are clearly on the counterattack and taking the offensive in Afghanistan. After organizing a spectacular jailbreak at the weekend during which several hundreds of Taliban militants escaped, the insurgents blew up bridges near Kandahar hoping to deter a possible counter-offensive by Afghan and NATO troops.

NATO can ill-afford to allow the Taliban a victory. The great danger in the Afghan campaign is that the Western nations currently contributing troops to the war effort will lose interest and withdraw. This is precisely what the Taliban hopes to achieve in prolonging the campaign and gradually raising the number of casualties among NATO forces, which in turn they believe will bring pressure on the respective governments back home, and eventually forcing them to withdraw their forces.

"There were Taliban everywhere. They have destroyed all of the small bridges leading to the villages," a local resident told the French news agency, AFP.

The presence of about 70,000 international troops mainly operating under NATO does not seem to discourage the insurgency, aimed at overthrowing the U.S.-backed government in Kabul. A movement that has grown in intensity over the past two years with the Taliban coming more brazen in recent months, launching a raid on a five-star hotel in January and opening fire on a televised military parade attended by Karzai in April.

Allowing the Taliban a victory in Afghanistan will reset the anti-terrorist clock back to zero.

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A Taliban commander named Mullah Ahmedullah called an Associated Press reporter on Tuesday and said that around 400 Taliban moved into Arghandab from Khakrez, one district to the north. He said some of the militants released in Friday's prison break had joined the assault.

"They told us, 'We want to fight until the death,'" Ahmedullah said. "We've occupied most of the area and it's a good place for fighting. Now we are waiting for the NATO and Afghan forces."

The U.S. and NATO have pleaded for additional troops over the last year and now have some 65,000 in the country. But the militants are still finding successes that the international alliance can't counter.

Haji Ibrahim Khan said Taliban fighters were moving through several Arghandab villages with weapons on their shoulders, planting mines and destroying small bridges.

"They told us to leave the area within 24 hours because they want to fight foreign and Afghan troops," Khan said.

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Afghan and Nato officials say they are redeploying troops to respond to "any potential threats" from the rebels.

Afghan military officials say 300 troops were flown to Kandahar on Tuesday, while others arrived on Monday.

Witnesses have told the BBC there has been a build up of Nato-led and Afghan forces in Arghandab district.

Reports say Nato helicopters have been dropping leaflets on villages telling people to leave before an operation.

Villagers in Arghandab district contacted by the BBC Pashto service said the Taleban had blown up three bridges and planted bombs under others.

Reports on news agencies say the militants have also been planting mines.

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Ask the Russians how long the Afghans can resist

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NATO faces critical battle in Afghanistan...

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virgincrude · Heavy Crude Joined: Mar 09, 2006 Posts: 468

This fellow has the truth:

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Pak: Taliban seize 3 US military choppers

Taliban militants in Pakistan's restive tribal belt captured three US military choppers while they were being shipped in a dismantled state from Peshawar to Jalalabad in Afghanistan and sold one of the helicopters for several hundred thousand dollars, a media report said todays.

Pakistani officials confirmed the development while the US embassy spokesperson refused to comment.

Some diplomats in Islamabad were aware of the Taliban operation but were not ready to speak on record. One of the hijacked helicopters had already been sold to an unidentified customer in Afghanistan, the report said.

The components of the helicopters arrived in containers at the Karachi Port and were taken by road to Peshawar. The containers then entered the tribal areas for the journey to Afghanistan.

When the containers entered the restive Khyber Agency, Taliban stopped the convoys and took away the helicopter components. Pakistani paramilitary forces tried to confront the Taliban but 'suffered heavy losses due to darkness'.

The incident happened in the same area where Pakistan's ambassador to Afghanistan Tariq Azizuddin was kidnapped in February this year.

A Chinook heavy lift chopper and a Black Hawk multi-role helicopter were captured recently while a Cobra gunship helicopter was hijacked some weeks ago.

When the Taliban first captured the Cobra helicopter, they filmed all the stolen components and supplied a CD to their allies in Afghanistan. Certain people in Farah province of western Afghanistan 'showed an interest in purchasing the Cobra helicopter and subsequently its parts were smuggled to Farah', the report said.

'Taliban sold this Cobra to an unidentified customer for several hundred thousand dollars,' it said.

Following the latest hijacking, Taliban have filmed all the stolen components of the Chinook and Black Hawk helicopters. The Taliban have sent the CD 'for attracting customers from neighbouring countries of Afghanistan'.

Top US military officials have demanded that Pakistan should 'start an operation in the tribal areas for the recovery of their stolen helicopters'.

They expressed concern that instead of initiating an operation against the Taliban, the new government is negotiating peace with the militants, the report said.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/jun/18talib.htm

Who's bright idea was it, to ship these through a Taliban controlled province?
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virgincrude · Heavy Crude Joined: Mar 09, 2006 Posts: 468

Cid, that whole report is just downright funny.