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allenwrench
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 Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: Can I grow any veggies with the 4.5 to 5.0 PH soil? |
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| I made a dedicated blueberry bed and do not have enough plants to fill it out yet. In the space not yet used, can I grow any veggies this year with the soil sulfur modified to be 4.5 to 5.0 PH? |
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SpringCreekFarm
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:14 am Post subject: Re: Can I grow any veggies with the 4.5 to 5.0 PH soil? |
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| According to my sources, no, too acidic. |
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steam_cannon
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: Re: Can I grow any veggies with the 4.5 to 5.0 PH soil? |
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Edit: Note, Ludi gives a better answer then me in the next post down...
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It's fine, if your veggies are pine trees... 
| Quote: | ...The nations of the Adirondacks (a word which means "tree eaters")
ate the inner bark of White Pines as one of their primary winter foods...
...Old records reveal numerous English settlements where virtually all
of the colonists died of scurvy (lack of vitamin C) during their first
winters in the "New World." Compassionate Native Americans
suggested a daily tea of Pine needles, one of Nature's richest
sources of vitamin C, and saved the colonists' lives...
http://www.blueroebuck.com/white_pine.htm |
But hey, lime is pretty cheap...
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Ludi
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:32 am Post subject: Re: Can I grow any veggies with the 4.5 to 5.0 PH soil? |
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pH 4.5 to 5.5
Radish
Sweet Potato
pH 4.8 to 5.5
Potato
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steam_cannon
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Can I grow any veggies with the 4.5 to 5.0 PH soil? |
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| Ludi wrote: | pH 4.5 to 5.5
Radish
Sweet Potato
pH 4.8 to 5.5
Potato
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Yeah, I'd say Ludi has the right answer here. Thanks Ludi! |
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Ludi
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:56 am Post subject: Re: Can I grow any veggies with the 4.5 to 5.0 PH soil? |
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Thank Google! 
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: Can I grow any veggies with the 4.5 to 5.0 PH soil? |
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If you mix a good bit of wood ashes in with your soil, it'll bring the pH up.
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Everado
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Can I grow any veggies with the 4.5 to 5.0 PH soil? |
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| If it goes below 4ish, aluminum ions become much more soluble, which prevent plants from absorbing any minerals. Grow what Ludi suggested, or look up other tolerant plants since those are more adept at overcoming this. The soil will probably return to its natural pH eventually if you add ash/lime. |
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RedStateGreen
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Can I grow any veggies with the 4.5 to 5.0 PH soil? |
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Or you can dump some compost on top. 
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DoubleD
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: Can I grow any veggies with the 4.5 to 5.0 PH soil? |
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Cranberry plants love the same soil conditions as blueberries... they make a great ground cover/understory planting for a blueberry patch. I have several growing between and under my blueberries.
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kpeavey
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:12 am Post subject: Re: Can I grow any veggies with the 4.5 to 5.0 PH soil? |
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Put the compost right to the beds, and in no small amount. Digging the compost into the first few inches of soil will adjust the Ph to some degree, giving shallow rooted plants a better chance at surviving in an acid environment. The compost will also feed the earthworms, the earthworms will work to adjust the Ph of the soil. Earthworms are natural bioreactors. Whatever goes in the front comes out the back closer to neutral Ph. It takes time for the worms to do their job, but they do it tirelessly.
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allenwrench
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:20 am Post subject: Re: Can I grow any veggies with the 4.5 to 5.0 PH soil? |
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| Thanks for the replies. |
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