THE State of Idaho Thread (merged)

burtonridr · Intermediate Crude Joined: Aug 03, 2007 Posts: 763

Good to see more people for idaho Smile

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duke · Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:24 am Post subject: Re: From Idaho....

Hi,

Thanks for the reply on the elite vs the non elite.

duke · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:39 am Post subject: North Idaho region....

Hi, to this site and the Northern Idaho.

We have visited many sites over time and found the vast majority of posters are content to talk about what might happen...but have honestly done little to prepare. A matter of choice.

Just getting together about one years worth of food, meds, clothing, hygiene stuff and all the rest is a daunting task in itself. Then to add on to that having a safe location which will afford you and yours the needed things like enough water for that year, sanitation, heat, shelter and safety is even a greater challenge.

Most Americans live totally or in part depending on public utilities. What would you do if/when the grid goes down for months or much more, no pressurized water flows out of your tap, sewers back up as pumps stop working, toilets no longer flush, garbage piles up on the streets, desperate people start roaming around your yard/property? Just some thoughts. It would be a little late to try and locate a safer place by then.

Well some of us here in North Idaho have thought all that through. We feel this site would do us all a great service by opening up a subject heading for people who truly expect to survive any disaster, by teaming up together ahead of time.

Now we are not talking about moving or changing jobs here, just communicating with others within a days drive of each other. Having the chance and a site to get to know each other and possibly leading to meeting up. Doing this now will go a long way to ensure safety later if needed. It is a safe means as all your postings filter through here.

Waiting until the siren goes off is just to late. Starting to build up your years supply now is probably to late for most. Stressful times do not lend to getting to know others, communications could well be down for a long long time.

For us, we sure don't need your stuff and only you know if you have done what it truly takes. We are searching for other like minded, fully prepared folks to share ideas and general plans with. Some of us might end up teaming up, others just be in a Ham Powered communications network.

This is a win/win situation which requires no relocations or life changes on anyones part. It only requires that you have completed your emergency survival list and need a safer location to fall back to or others to watch your back while you sleep.. In other words you are an asset...not a liability.

We are reaching out here and realize somewhere around 98% of bloggers fall way short in actually being 20% ready let alone 100%. We don't expect a great turn out from this posting based on that, if nothing else. But there could be those one or two families out there that this rings true to.

Some of us are set up and for that we are real happy for you. Good job!! Others lacking a safer location might think about all this...

smallpoxgirl · Moderator Joined: Nov 08, 2004 Posts: 6358

The Planning for the Future forum is probably what you're looking for. It's the part of the site where people discuss how they will deal with such contingencies.
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taizee · Tar Sands Joined: Jun 22, 2008 Posts: 52

Welcome to the forum, Duke

duke · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:23 am Post subject: Living/Surviving in Idaho

Hello from Northern Idaho...

We have visited many sites over time and found the vast majority of posters are content to talk about what might happen...but have honestly done little to prepare. A matter of choice.

Just getting together about one years worth of food, meds, clothing, hygiene stuff and all the rest is a daunting task in itself. Then to add on to that having a safe location which will afford you and yours the needed things like enough water for that year, sanitation, heat, shelter and safety is even a greater challenge.

Most Americans live totally or in part depending on public utilities. What would you do if/when the grid goes down for months or much more, no pressurized water flows out of your tap, sewers back up as pumps stop working, toilets no longer flush, garbage piles up on the streets, desperate people start roaming around your yard/property? Just some thoughts. By then, it would be a little late to try and locate a safer place.

Well some of us here in North Idaho have thought all that through. We feel this site would do us all a great service by opening up a subject heading for people who truly expect to survive any disaster, by teaming up together ahead of time.

Now we are not talking about moving or changing jobs here, just communicating with others within a days drive of each other. Having the chance and a site to get to know each other and possibly leading to meeting up. Doing this now will go a long way to ensure safety later if needed. It is a safe means as all your postings filter through here.

Waiting until the siren goes off is just to late. Starting to build up your years supply now is probably to late for most. Searching for and even buying a homestead with the infrastucture to support of the grid living is a long shot. If the flag goes up then those stressful times do not lend to getting to know others, communications could well be down for a long long time.

For us, we sure don't need your stuff and only you know if you have done what it truly takes. We are searching for other like minded, fully prepared folks to share ideas and general plans with. Some of us might end up teaming up, others just be in a Ham Powered communications network.

This is a win/win situation which requires no relocations or life changes on anyones part. It only requires that you have completed your emergency survival list and need a safer location to fall back to or others to watch your back while you sleep.. In other words you are an asset...not a liability.

We are reaching out here and realize somewhere around 98% of bloggers fall way short in actually being 20% ready let alone 100%. Based on that, we don't expect a great turn out from this posting. But there could be those one or two families out there that this rings true to.

Some are set up and for that we are real happy for you. Good job!! Others lacking a safer location might think about all this... more to follow.... Duke

duke · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:42 am Post subject: Re: Living/Surviving in Idaho

Back From Idaho...

We saw this thread above here about, rich people and homesteads? Let me say this...when folks have visited us from town on one of the several country places I have owned over the years, the most common thing they say is...how beautiful and peaceful this is. Oh, we want to move out to the country and live someday.... Yeh right...is what I think and it is all so true.

Folks country living is twenty times harder than living in town. The bigger your spread the more you are obligated to it all day long. It is a never ending labor of love and hard work...with no pay check either. It is also very expensive if... you want to have a nice and orderly place. I see the old double wides with trash all over, that is easy, drink beer all day and watch TV. The fruits of such deferred maintenance shows big time.

It not only takes some real money to buy out in the country but the developing of the infrastructure is very expensive. We highly recommend that all town folks rent or lease a country place for a year or two first. See if you can deal with it.

You are after all the only form of law enforcement and animal control out there. You have a problem...you learn to deal with it. From handling trespassers to getting up in the middle of the dark night to shotgun a very large bear/cougar/wolf or whatever going after the chickens. No time to wait for help. It never comes.

No one plows you out and when the power goes off you are last on page three to get it on. It is no cake walk.

Realizing that there could be some in town so to speak, that have taken wise and prudent steps to fully prepare their families for a disaster, yet can not afford a homestead or do not wish to take on the hard endless work...well our family and group came up with an alternative for a few of you.

Our spacious ranch which is well set up to take in a select few that might need to evacuate their town location in the event of a serious disaster or terrible event. Like I said before, this could be a win/win situation. We could use some extra help watching the place/growing food/fellowship/becoming part of the temporary group out here and just the safety in numbers idea. many hands make for lighter work.

You don't need to invest in the whole nine yards but if you qualify you can have that spot ready and waiting. Thus able to spend more cash on preparations and not on land buying. Even if you do go for the land buying you will then find yourself alone in the night.

Yes we did say qualifying and temporary. This is a safe place to get through a crisis for a month/a year/ or ? But all bad times will end and then everyone leaves. Yes you do need to have shown us you have on hand everything you will need for such a time length. We posted before, our family/group does not need you stuff. We are offering a safer location than you might have and folks to watch your back while you sleep. Then it is your turn to do that for the others.

No you do not own a piece of our ranch, yes you do have a say in what goes on and no it is not a compound/cult/or commune. It is simply a working ranch set up very wisely to survive with no outside help for a very long period of time.

Food for thought. This is not for 98% of readers and the general public. There is a very high probability we will not even find one couple at all here. Nothing ventured nothing gained. We tried.

This set up should not be taken as a put down or comparison to what all you have or have not done. Just us offering a possible suggestion to those with ears to hear...Have a great day and take care, Duke

Ayoob · Expert Joined: Jul 15, 2004 Posts: 1111

Sounds like freedom to me.

DomusAlbion · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:39 am Post subject: Re: Living/Surviving in Idaho

So Duke, if yours is a "bug out" type facility, do you have storage lockers for peoples' provisions so they can pre-cache them on your land? Then in the event of an emergency they would only need to get themselves to your locale.
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duke · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: Living/Surviving in Idaho

Hi,

Hey thanks for the good and fair question. We have all kinds of room. We currently have some sealed storage trailers on site and would highly recomend that. I can hold the keys or not. No problem either way.

No, I did not go to the expense of building someone else a storage locked...would you? The trailers offer folks thier private place and the quick means to move it if they so desire. No one needs to stay hooked up with us if they change their mind or circumstances change their lives.

We do have under cover areas to hide such trailers if needed during an emergency. Anything else you wish to ask.? I do reserve the position of nicely refusing a question which could place the group in what we consider a bad situation. Hope you can see that:) Smile

. Off to work in the barn now....

Take care, Duke

slesh · Tar Sands Joined: Jul 20, 2008 Posts: 43

Hello Duke,
I was in Provo UT last year.
Just wondering how your area is set for electric.
Industrial Electrician and my wife, kids and I are looking to get to an area where others might be preparing.

Thanks,
Ty

burtonridr · Intermediate Crude Joined: Aug 03, 2007 Posts: 763

duke · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:31 am Post subject: Re: Prepping in Idaho...

In Idaho I don't think we have coal reserves, but a lot of natural gas flows down from the north. No nuke either. You could call Avista here or Kootenai Electric to get more electric source info. We have a hydro dam here in town and another just west of here 80 miles or so.

Our ranch has off grid power available with a 40 kw, a 15kw and two 5.5kw generators. We have some solar and are planning for one well to go solar and wind with an invertor soon.

Funny thing about not driving to work...we don't as we are retired way out here...but still young in our mid 50 range.

Idaho rocks!!!!

burtonridr · Intermediate Crude Joined: Aug 03, 2007 Posts: 763

duke

OK. I have been moved here from planning for the future??? No problem. We are still looking for a few more couples within reasonable driving range from us. We are growing in numbers. We will post our ad from another major site which produces 99% of our contacts. Take care, duke