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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Strictly a "100$ hamburger" type plane. Costs about 30-35$/hour to fly (total costs). Burns 5 gal/hour. Its just for local pleasure flights really. Cant carry any real load, and it only goes about 100 mph. Range of about 280-325 miles depending on winds.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

AirlinePilot wrote:
Strictly a "100$ hamburger" type plane. Costs about 30-35$/hour to fly (total costs). Burns 5 gal/hour. Its just for local pleasure flights really. Cant carry any real load, and it only goes about 100 mph. Range of about 280-325 miles depending on winds.


$30-35??!?! I wish we had those rates out here! A 152 around these parts is 86/hr.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thats MY cost to fly it, I dont rent. I own the aircraft free and clear. I consider insurance, fuel, and a certain amount for maintenance each hour in determining the cost.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Avgas 5.60

Jetfuel 4.08

This is really getting serious.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

caliginousface wrote:

$30-35??!?! I wish we had those rates out here! A 152 around these parts is 86/hr.


You guys still have it cheap then; the 152 at my flying club rents for the equivalent of 190 dollars/hour, fuel included.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Avgas 5.65/gal.

I just attended a recent fly in of Cessna 150 owners in Iowa. Attendance was down about 25%. Avgas prices are really starting to hurt General Aviation on the recreational side.

Jet Fuel 3.96/gal.

While that is down a bit since last week or two it is still ridiculously high and not commensurate with the decrease in crude prices.

Airlines are still bleeding due to this. It's going to be very interesting to see how long this can go on before they start dropping out of the race.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Avgas 5.58 This number isn't coming down very fast and it's got me ticked off.

Jetfuel 3.33 Thats better but over the longer term its still very high. Anything over 2.25 or so could be considered very expensive as of just a year or two ago.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Avgas 5.56


Jetfuel 3.24
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Avgas is moving back higher again, Im sure its supply related.

Avgas is at 5.63


Jetfuel continues its decline, likely due to the amount of schedule shrinkage at the majors.

Jetfuel 3.13
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:09 am    Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Jetfuel is down to 2.92 this week!

Avgas is still reluctant to show the drop as regular car gas has. Its still above 5 at 5.48
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:23 am    Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

AP:

Do you have any observations on the following:

a. How has the current situation affected the charter-type flying i.e. companies that want to charter planes to fly their people around? Do you have a sense of what is going on in that business?

Probably some of this is affected by the airlines' fare strategy at the moment (doing whatever they need to fill the seats).


b. Any noticeable effects on the amount of pleasure flying yet? I imagine anyone who is really into flying and has deep pockets will still be glad to pay a hundred or so for a weekend flight around town.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

pup55 wrote:
AP:

Do you have any observations on the following:

a. How has the current situation affected the charter-type flying i.e. companies that want to charter planes to fly their people around? Do you have a sense of what is going on in that business?

Probably some of this is affected by the airlines' fare strategy at the moment (doing whatever they need to fill the seats).


b. Any noticeable effects on the amount of pleasure flying yet? I imagine anyone who is really into flying and has deep pockets will still be glad to pay a hundred or so for a weekend flight around town.


All I have is anecdotal evidence but on the pleasure flying end its noticeable that there is a decline. I've attended three events, during the last few months and the attendance was down at all of them as far as aircraft go.

Not sure about the charter stuff as I have no real exposure to it.

I'm flying slightly less but can still afford the bi-monthly 100$ Hamburger.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

This weeks latest drop:

Avgas is down nicely to 5.02 The drop seemed very delayed compared to regular autogas reductions recently.

Jetfuel continues it's decline and now sits at 2.17 which while still expensive is a huge relief and has to be having a large effect on bottom line costs.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:52 am    Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Was curious if anyone has information on European jet fuel prices? I'm currently abroad and haven't noticed a price change in regular gasoline prices since oil has crashed since i've been here. What is jet fuel doing can only seem to find information on US prices or old european prices from 2006?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Aviation Fuel price record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Avgas now 4.47 national average


Jetfuel is down to 1.86 and continues its drop largely due to the giant reduction in jet fuel demand.
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