Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: Milwaukee food riot
Wouldn't it be great if social issues such as crime and welfare could be discussed without making it a racial thing - no matter which side you take? _________________ "The progress of civilization:
bondage --> spiritual faith --> courage --> liberty --> abundance --> complacency --> apathy --> dependence --> bondage." - Alexander Tyler
Joined: Jun 26, 2004 Posts: 1191 Location: Madison,Wisconsin
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: Milwaukee food riot
Funny how I live 70 miles away and I didn't hear a thing about this. I think this is a little misleading in the title, this wasn't a food riot, this was a riot of people waiting for free stuff.
Also funny that people are talking about how there's no crying in the midwest about handouts. Umm, gunny, are you in the same Wisconsin I inhabit? There was plenty of crying..
Now, if my home got flooded away, I think I'd be crying a little bit for help too. I guess the point people are trying to make is people are people the world over. The difference is largely how much money they have, but even that goes the way of the dodo when all your money get's taken away by a flood. _________________ Azreal60
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Milwaukee food riot
it would but the racial card is so easy to pull. Look at obamas recent speechs. Already setting the tone to call McCains and any republican attacks racist. its just the easiest defense when you have no other.
The black community in milwaukee has serious problems that only they can fix but choose to ignore.
Joined: Nov 06, 2007 Posts: 759 Location: Illinois
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: Milwaukee food riot
frankthetank wrote:
gunny-
Maybe you and your buddies can push them over the border into Illinois, build a large wall and let Obama deal with them?
What sucks is that a lot of the "trash" from that area is making its way into the smaller towns like mine and causing a lot of trouble (mostly armed robbery, minor theft, drug dealing).
"Ghetto thugs, coming to a small town near you"...
No thanks, we have enough thugs in Illinois. _________________ The oil barrel is half-full.
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: Milwaukee food riot
Quote:
unless you are critically ill from some other source, 7 days without food is going to do you no harm at all. If you go on a total fast, it takes an average of 60 days to starve.
I did a four-day water-only fast and it wasn't that big a deal. The big deal was when I started eating again and that wasn't pleasant. I was surprised that the hunger pangs weren't any worse than they were, but I also did some mental exercises to keep the hunger at bay.
I have also fasted and consumed only fruit juice for a couple days and that wasn't bad at all. My point is, we humans are designed to go long periods of time between eating. That's why we're all so darn chubby now.
As to the 2/2/2 rule, I don't buy that either (two minutes - air, two days - water and two weeks - food). My auntie died a fairly peaceful death after she lost the ability to eat or drink. Nine days after she lost all muscle control (and the ability to swallow), she passed on. The 87-year-old woman lasted for *nine days* without a drop of moisture passing her lips. Hospice workers told us that it was "on the longish side" but not that uncommon.
I think humans are a lot tougher than we may realize.
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: Milwaukee food riot
dohboi wrote:
The states that get the largest amount of "free hand outs" from the federal government are the states that always show up "red" on the election charts. Why aren't you railing against those lazy people?
I think now is good time to point out how the entire ethanol boondoggle was a direct result of certain Mid-Westerners asking .gov for hand out mixed with corporate welfare. If we are going to blast welfare lets follow the money trail and blame who is really to blame.
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: Milwaukee food riot
yes ethanol is a scam and a perfect example of government waste and i am totally against it. Out own governor is a HUGE scam artist and is heavily involved in ethanol in this state. But in ethanols defense whole generations are not being raised on it. Plus it is not a direct transfer of wealth like social entitlement programs are. Although with the recent farm bill its kind of a grey area.
Joined: Nov 06, 2007 Posts: 759 Location: Illinois
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Milwaukee food riot
Novus wrote:
I think now is good time to point out how the entire ethanol boondoggle was a direct result of certain Mid-Westerners asking .gov for hand out mixed with corporate welfare. If we are going to blast welfare lets follow the money trail and blame who is really to blame.
Are you comparing ethanol subsides to the cost of entitlement programs? I hate corn ethanol and would like to see those subsidies removed, but lets be realistic here.
Quote:
Corn ethanol subsidies totaled $7.0 billion in 2006
Three growing entitlement programs consumed nearly half of all federal spending in 2004, and budget analysts expect them to make up an even bigger share in the future. Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid accounted for more than $1 trillion in the 2004 budget year, according to the Consolidated Federal Funds Report released Tuesday by the Census Bureau.
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Milwaukee food riot
hope_full wrote:
My point is, we humans are designed to go long periods of time between eating. That's why we're all so darn chubby now.
Yep, when you ram your body full of sugar and carbohydrates (also a sugar). You're telling your body to store up for lean times. So when you see a massive behemoth, they have prepped up for like the next 50 winters :)
Much of the american population could probably go 30 days or more without food and be just fine. Psychologically though. People will freak.
Many grains and dairy products have an opiate effect on the brain. Which is why someone who is stressed out might eat a quart of ice cream or mow down a bag of corn chips.
This means the behavior of people who can't get their junk food may resemble that of a drug addict.
Joined: Apr 08, 2006 Posts: 1464 Location: Somewhere there
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Milwaukee food riot
gunny7258 wrote:
I live in Milwaukee and they opened this office right in the heart of the ghetto. There was a false rumor that FREE food stamps were being given out right on the spot. Lazy people who refuse to work like FREE stuff so a ton of them came and of course cannot behave to save their lives.
All the people had to prove was that they lived in milwaukee and nothing else. It was basically your typical lazy inner city trash trying to get more free handouts from people who actually work.
The comments from these people on the news were pathetic! They actually were complaining how hard it was to get FREE food.
There is no food shortage in the Midwest just a bunch of low life lazy people who have nothing better to do then to cause trouble while waiting for their government handout!
If you go to the FEMA offices in the better parts of the state this does not go on and everything runs very smooth.
they will eat you if you don't feed them, do you realize that? IQ of 70, excessive hormone levels and historical traditions of cannibalism do not go well with absence of FREE food.
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Milwaukee food riot
Thank you, pret, for proving beyond a whisper of a doubt that there is absolutely not one smidgin of racism on this forum......
Now that that is taken care of, centralstump, don't get too comfortable--I usually start with the Catholics, and get to Jews and Blacks later
On the one hand this clearly had an element of the frenzy for anything free that permeates our culture. On the other hand I don't think it was entirely coincidental that this was about food--not getting food you expected to be able to get when your kids are hungry can put anyone into a foul mood.
Do people have stories about other disturbances around food in their localities?
Joined: Apr 08, 2006 Posts: 1464 Location: Somewhere there
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: Milwaukee food riot
dohboi wrote:
Thank you, pret, for proving beyond a whisper of a doubt that there is absolutely not one smidgin of racism on this forum......
Uuuuuh, racism! Now what exactly did I say that is racialy related? Did I say.... Did I say..( lowering voice with a covered mouth)---.............(<---- these are tiny-tiny letters)
Joined: Jul 17, 2004 Posts: 490 Location: Amerika (most of the time)
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Milwaukee food riot
gunny7258 wrote:
yes ethanol is a scam and a perfect example of government waste and i am totally against it. Out own governor is a HUGE scam artist and is heavily involved in ethanol in this state. But in ethanols defense whole generations are not being raised on it. Plus it is not a direct transfer of wealth like social entitlement programs are. Although with the recent farm bill its kind of a grey area.
So gunny, what do you think running huge budget deficits are? Let me tell you. That is a direct transfer of wealth from future generations to current generations. To keep it simple, the US government has charged up a bunch of stuff and leaving future generations to pay for present consumption.
So go ahead and compare the annual US deficit to very small programs such as welfare and food stamps and I would think your anger and outrage are focused in the wrong direction. Of course it is easy to beat up on poor and disadvantaged people but the real problems lie outside of most people's understanding. _________________ Simon's Law: Everything put together falls apart sooner or later.
I don't think of all the misery, but of all the beauty that still remains.--Anne Frank
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Milwaukee food riot
disadvantaged people are only that way because of the poor life choices they made. My tax money should not be used to help them out when they are perfectly able to function and work but choose not to.
I also feel that the current mortgage bailout, stimulus checks were also a scam and while there is a serious issue with government spending the rhetoric coming out of the lefts mouth is all about tax increases on the wealthy (those who work hard and made good choices) and more social programs to help the less fortunate.
Funny thing is that the definition of the word fortunate is luck??? I am not lucky i worked hard and have a great career and make great money. I choose to take this path. Just like someone poor lazy SOB is i not unlucky because they choose to sit on their butt all day and suck the government tit, its what they choose to do.
When personal responsibility starts to make its way back into this society the maybe we will have a chance. But with the current outlook and attitudes were in for some major trouble.
But on the bright side i can go get some free green beans!
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