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lorenzo Fission


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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: World's largest steel maker to increase prices by 60% |
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ArcelorMittal, the world's largest steel maker, is going to increase its steel prices by 60%.
It asks car manufacturers and other industries to prepare for the rise.
Arcelor Mittal says the increase is logical because not only have raw materials prices increased, the most basic inputs needed to make steel - energy and transportation - have also become far more costly.
The steel maker says demand for steel remains very strong. But the increased prices could make cars much more expensive in the future.
In Dutch:
Staalprijzen straks met 60 procent omhoog.
http://www.deredactie.be/cm/de.redactie/economie/080630_staal_Arcelor _________________ The Beginning is Near! |
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Specop_007 Expert

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: World's largest steel maker to increase prices by 60% |
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I didnt think there was that much steel in a car?? _________________ "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the
Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you."
Ammo at a gunfight is like bubblegum in grade school: If you havent brought enough for everyone, you're in trouble
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anarky321 Heavy Crude


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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: World's largest steel maker to increase prices by 60% |
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| consider also the steel used in the factories, in the tooling for those cars and the steel used in the production of all the factories and the tooling for every part of the car at all the intermediate production sites; the tankers that transport those intermediate parts to the assembly sites etc etc when you combine all those things and the price increases that will be passed on to the consumer you'll see that it has a very serious effect on the end consumer as well as all the car manufacturers |
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setag Tar Sands


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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: World's largest steel maker to increase prices by 60% |
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lorenzo
Please post this news release. I have been all over the English version of this site and I do not see it. Can not believe it just yet!
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Heineken Expert


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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: World's largest steel maker to increase prices by 60% |
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Steel is almost as basic to the global economy as oil. Specop is right in saying it is a less crucial ingredient in cars as formerly, but there are so many other things to which steel is vital, like structural girders.
This is an astounding piece of inflation news.
Let's bear in mind that Dow Chemical increased its prices 20% across the board a couple of months ago and just the other day announced another 20% or 25% increase. That's 40-45%. Almost everything you buy has a Dow product in it.
Thank you, Lorenzo, for this report. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
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Ludi NeoMaster


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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: World's largest steel maker to increase prices by 60% |
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Oh crud.
Guess I'd better rush out in a buying frenzy and get that new metal roofing... _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow." - jboogy |
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skeptik Heavy Crude


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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: World's largest steel maker to increase prices by 60% |
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| Specop_007 wrote: | | I didnt think there was that much steel in a car?? |
Um... just curious, what do you think they're mainly made of?
in 1970 the average American car had about 3000lbs of steel in it. By 2000 that had dropped to about 2200lbs, plus much more plastic and non-ferrous metal.
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Reality_Conference Tar Sands


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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: World's largest steel maker to increase prices by 60% |
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I have a plastic car, myself. Not much in an accident, but easy on the steel.
I used to work in steel fabrication and that is very interesting news. I guess it doesn't matter what the core product is--food, steel---everything is going up. |
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Dreamtwister Fission


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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: World's largest steel maker to increase prices by 60% |
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Cue the news reports of people's roofs and sheds being stolen... _________________ The whole of human history is a refutation by experiment of the concept of "moral world order". - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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frankthetank Fusion


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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: World's largest steel maker to increase prices by 60% |
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Scrap prices are going to jump. A lot of older suvs and trucks will be worth way more in scrap. _________________ Clothing should be optional. |
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emersonbiggins Moderator


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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: World's largest steel maker to increase prices by 60% |
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FYI - ArcelorMittal had already raised prices by 33% back in April of this year.
World's largest steel producer hiking prices by 33% _________________ "It's called the American Dream because you'd have to be asleep to believe it."
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skeptik Heavy Crude


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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: World's largest steel maker to increase prices by 60% |
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| frankthetank wrote: | | Scrap prices are going to jump. A lot of older suvs and trucks will be worth way more in scrap. |
Peak Oil leads us to the lessons of Edo period Japan. Recycle...everything. Waste ceases to be a problem, but an opportunity for profit. |
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lorenzo Fission


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Dreamtwister Fission


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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: World's largest steel maker to increase prices by 60% |
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| lorenzo wrote: | | Wouldn't this suddenly make carbon-fiber and other non-steel composites attractive options for car manufacturers? |
Not necessarily. Most of the unnecessary steel was removed from cars years ago. Even the engine blocks are made of aluminum these days. What's left is almost all structural. Crankshafts, frame components, gear assemblies and the suspension systems are about all that's left.
Although a car with a carbonfiber frame and suspension would be really great on fuel economy, the price would be prohibitive to all but the most wealthy buyers. And since they are all buying armored towncars for their protection, there just isn't much of a market. _________________ The whole of human history is a refutation by experiment of the concept of "moral world order". - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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green_achers Heavy Crude


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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: World's largest steel maker to increase prices by 60% |
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Unlike other commodities, steel and iron ore aren't traded on the commodity markets. So the increases in the prices can't very well be blamed on speculators. I heard a report on NPR about a week ago that the big iron ore producers in S America and Australia were raising prices up to 100%. Then there's this: The main reason cited is shipping costs, i.e., energy, which shouldn't surprise anyone. _________________ Sarah Palin: Because what we really need right now is another inexperienced, inarticulate, personable, fundamentalist governor of an oil-dependent state for president. |
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