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Graeme Fission


Joined: Mar 04, 2005 Posts: 2655 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:57 pm Post subject: Arctic Holds 100 Billion Bbl Oil In Unexplored Fields |
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Arctic Holds 100 Billion Bbl Oil In Unexplored Fields
| Quote: | The Arctic holds 100 billion barrels of oil in unexplored fields, a government geologist with the U.S. Geological Survey said Monday at an international oil industry gathering in Spain.
"The Arctic is almost completely unexplored," said Donald Gautier at the World Petroleum Congress in Madrid. "There are 100 billion barrels of oil to be found in the Arctic."
Gautier said that throughout the world "our best guess is still that there is a 50-50 chance that there is an excess of 500 billion barrels of conventional recoverable oil in undisclosed fields as of now." |
CNN _________________ Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe. H. G. Wells.
Fatih Birol's motto: leave oil before it leaves us. |
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Rogozhin Heavy Crude


Joined: Dec 26, 2006 Posts: 262 Location: Eastern Washington
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:27 am Post subject: Re: Arctic Holds 100 Billion Bbl Oil In Unexplored Fields |
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IT's a good thing global warning will allow us to extract all that oil!  _________________ "Those who long for exaltation look upwards, but I look downward for I am the exalted."
Thus Spake Zarathustra |
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Concerned Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Sep 23, 2004 Posts: 1537
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:29 am Post subject: Re: Arctic Holds 100 Billion Bbl Oil In Unexplored Fields |
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Approx 3.5 years supply at current usage levels. Mmmmm oil. _________________ "Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."
-Italian Proverb |
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mrobert Heavy Crude


Joined: Apr 06, 2006 Posts: 379 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:05 am Post subject: Re: Arctic Holds 100 Billion Bbl Oil In Unexplored Fields |
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| Concerned wrote: | | Approx 3.5 years supply at current usage levels. Mmmmm oil. |
You mean we are saved? _________________ capitalism *is* fun blog
http://www.exosyphen.com/ |
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Plantagenet Expert


Joined: Apr 09, 2007 Posts: 5938 Location: Alaska (its much bigger than Texas).
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:47 am Post subject: Re: Arctic Holds 100 Billion Bbl Oil In Unexplored Fields |
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| Concerned wrote: | | Approx 3.5 years supply at current usage levels. Mmmmm oil. |
Or you can think of it as a million barrels a day for 275 years. |
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TheDude Expert


Joined: Apr 06, 2006 Posts: 3420 Location: 3 miles NW of Champoeg, Republic of Cascadia
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:06 am Post subject: Re: Arctic Holds 100 Billion Bbl Oil In Unexplored Fields |
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The Oil Drum | Arctic Oil and Gas Ultimates
By Jean Laherrere.
| Quote: | Conclusion
The Arctic oil and gas potential has been fairly well explored since 1943 and displayed several cycles with little discovered volumes since 1990 (despite 75 discoveries in number of fields). Known discoveries have three times more gas than oil. Most of the Arctic gas reserves are stranded (Prudhoe Bay) gas pipes from such remote places are very expensive and will be built only in a decade.
The recent attempt by the Russians to claim the North Pole is attributed to oil and gas potential. The only seismic line on the Arctic Sea I know of is from a study by the IODP:
| Quote: | | The scientific inspiration that subsequently led to ACEX surfaced aboard F/S Polarstern in 1991 when two reflection seismic profiles (AWI-91090 and AWI-91091) were acquired by Wilfried Jokat and Yngve Kristoffersen across the Lomonosov Ridge between 87° and 88°N. These profiles show a neatly draped sediment sequence being over 400 m thick, at a modest water depth of ca 1200 m, which were considered to represent an undisturbed and continuous record of lower Eocene to Recent sediments. |
A thickness of 400 m is not enough for a real oil and gas potential. The Russian's move seems to be more connected to controlling sea navigation.
Arctic oil and gas will not change much the coming world peak oil and gas! |
_________________ Cogito, ergo non satis bibivi
Could you slide your shorts down please? |
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TheDude Expert


Joined: Apr 06, 2006 Posts: 3420 Location: 3 miles NW of Champoeg, Republic of Cascadia
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:19 am Post subject: Re: Arctic Holds 100 Billion Bbl Oil In Unexplored Fields |
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Appetite for Arctic oil rises in line with crude prices
| Quote: | | "There is lots of oil under the North Pole," said geologist Donald Gautier of the US Geological Survey at the World Petroleum Congress this week. He estimated that the Arctic holds 100 billion barrels of oil. |
Comment in the TOD story from Euan Mearns:
| Quote: | | The point you make about 400m sediment on the Lomonosov Ridge is well made - for our non-geological readers we need well in excess of 3000m of sediments to have source rocks (if they exist) buried to sufficient depth to achieve the temperature required to produce oil or gas. So this is propaganda for consumption by the financial press. |
Looking at the little map provided in the API story Gautier is saying most of the oil potential is in the Amerasian Basin, which is 1500-2000m deep - dunno about sedimentary characteristics. The basin is on an axis leading from the North Slope to the Pole, basically. _________________ Cogito, ergo non satis bibivi
Could you slide your shorts down please? |
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Concerned Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Sep 23, 2004 Posts: 1537
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:23 am Post subject: Re: Arctic Holds 100 Billion Bbl Oil In Unexplored Fields |
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| mrobert wrote: | | Concerned wrote: | | Approx 3.5 years supply at current usage levels. Mmmmm oil. |
You mean we are saved? |
Nope in the context of what we are using it's GAME OVER... _________________ "Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."
-Italian Proverb |
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lorenzo Fission


Joined: Jan 01, 2005 Posts: 2192
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: Re: Arctic Holds 100 Billion Bbl Oil In Unexplored Fields |
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Okay so that's 10 million barrels a day for 27 years. Fair enough.
However, won't this oil be too expensive to extract? And will it be able to compete with renewable electricity which will power the cars of the very near future? _________________ The Beginning is Near! |
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vision-master Fusion


Joined: May 18, 2006 Posts: 4415 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:37 am Post subject: Re: Arctic Holds 100 Billion Bbl Oil In Unexplored Fields |
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| Quote: | "The Arctic is almost completely unexplored," said Donald Gautier at the World Petroleum Congress in Madrid. "There are 100 billion barrels of oil to be found in the Arctic."
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"The Arctic is almost completely unexplored"
Ok, so how would "they" know about this then?
"There are 100 billion barrels of oil to be found in the Arctic"
I see. NOT!  |
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ROCKMAN Intermediate Crude


Joined: May 27, 2008 Posts: 802 Location: TEXAS
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:56 am Post subject: Re: Arctic Holds 100 Billion Bbl Oil In Unexplored Fields |
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Exactly vision-master. I'm prodrilling when and where it can be done safely and economicly. But when these "experts" throw out such numbers it really irritates me. I know how these numbers are generated but I'll save you from the tedius details. All these unsupported claims do is turn it into a debate about whose expert is smarter.
The way you find out how much oil is there is by drilling. And even then you're only making an educated guess.
No amount of new offshore drilling, regardless of the billions of bo that might be found, will not prevent PO. We began that trip the day Col. Drake drilled that first well. But, it will give us a little more time to make adjustments. My biggest concern is that we may gain a few years on PO but then waste this extra span by not developing serious conservation efforts and alternatives. When Saudi opened the valves in 1986 and dropped oil to $10/bbl the general population along with all the politicians squandered any chance we has to make a smooth transition. I was with Jimmy
Carter and his plan to raise gasoline taxes to force a change in consumption habits (yes...an oil man did vote for Jimmy…we engineers like to stick together).
We'll just have to wait and see if we make the same mistakes again. |
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peasea Tar Sands


Joined: Jul 26, 2007 Posts: 48
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: Re: Arctic Holds 100 Billion Bbl Oil In Unexplored Fields |
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rockman wrote
"We'll just have to wait and see if we make the same mistakes again."
it depresses me greatly that all the evidence to date shows we will........
So is yeast smarter than humans ? |
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Niagara Heavy Crude


Joined: Aug 17, 2006 Posts: 471 Location: Mt. Hubbert Scenic Lookout
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: Re: Arctic Holds 100 Billion Bbl Oil In Unexplored Fields |
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How long would it be until the first drop flows? 10-12 years?
And what would the daily output be?
By then, what will be the decline of Ghawar, Cantarell, Burgan, etc. ?
Hmmm. |
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vision-master Fusion


Joined: May 18, 2006 Posts: 4415 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: Re: Arctic Holds 100 Billion Bbl Oil In Unexplored Fields |
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| Quote: | | allow alternatives to flourish |
What would they be?  |
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ROCKMAN Intermediate Crude


Joined: May 27, 2008 Posts: 802 Location: TEXAS
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:39 am Post subject: Re: Arctic Holds 100 Billion Bbl Oil In Unexplored Fields |
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Niagara,
There's actually a little oil flowing right now from nearby areas but nothing to write home about.
How long before "significant" volumes flow (if they are actually there)...10 to 12 years isn't a bad guess. But for those unfamiliar with major big engineering projects in harsh environments that's actually pretty fast.
Will opening up such areas change oil pricing now? NO...but that's not the purpose for any new drilling. It's to have an impact on oil prices in 10 or 12 years. Just as projects started 10 years ago are impacting prices today. It may not feel like it but had not drilling expanded in the Deep Water Gulf of Mexico 10 years ago current oil prices would be much higher now.
As has been said before the only quick way to bring oil prices down now would be a drastic mandatory reduction in consumption. And I'm not holding my breath waiting on our politicians to fall on that sword. All other cures for our current circumstances fall within the same 10 to 20 year time frame...or a lot longer. |
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