I think this is the beginnings of an economy based on perpetual growth and fossil fuel energy running headlong into geological energy constraints. Basically I see an undulatory downward path for the rest of my life. From here out, I think any rallies in our economic condition are going to be met with spiking commodity prices that knock us right back down.
Joined: May 26, 2008 Posts: 1157 Location: Chicago, IL
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject: I see dead people.
For the last few weeks I've been working nex to a cute suburban mall. You know, the standard AMC theaters, marry-go-around, food court, JC Penny's, etc, type of mall.
I go there for lunch. I had a smoothie today.
I see dead people. 20-something year old couples, with 1-2 small children, 1-2 toddlers, driving SUVs or Mini Vans, buying toys, eating pizza at Sbarro's, all while crude oil and gasoline just hit another record high, mortgage crisis, credit card crisis, inflation, unemployment, war, food shortage, the works. There is no way these folks will live or survive long.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: I see dead people.
You never know how people react when things get tough. The dead person you see might be in the mirror....
You're just feeling the PO disconnect. Wondering how everyone can be acting like things are normal when theres a sh%tstorm bearing down on our collective asses...
-G _________________ I Have and will continue to vote against ANY politician who supports the various bailouts. Curse you for selling out our future for status quo now!
Joined: May 26, 2008 Posts: 1157 Location: Chicago, IL
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: I see dead people.
Hi, G.
gnm wrote:
The dead person you see might be in the mirror.
I have no dreams to survive much longer. If I do, it's shear dumb luck.
gnm wrote:
You're just feeling the PO disconnect. Wondering how everyone can be acting like things are normal when there's a sh%tstorm bearing down on our collective asses.
Joined: Aug 30, 2005 Posts: 277 Location: Second Vermont Republic
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: I see dead people.
I can guarantee that many of the people you see as "dead man walking" are a lot more complex than your off the cuff characterization. They are real people with real lives and some of them are smarter and more resourceful than you are.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: I see dead people.
they're not dead , they need leadership , guidance and ......a war
Iran here we come!
These people we so dispise are just trying their best to get along ,
not understanding the great movement of history thats happening today and tomorrow .
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: I see dead people.
I think of what I have read about the British, in Hong Kong, just before the Second World War. They to live like kings, as we do, here today. Many saw the dark storm rising, but most were making too much money, having too much fun. The sad thing is won’t be over in a few years, and we will be in the camps forever. _________________ HOLDING THE CENTER
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: I see dead people.
forbin wrote:
they're not dead , they need leadership , guidance and ......a war
Iran here we come!
These people we so dispise are just trying their best to get along ,
not understanding the great movement of history thats happening today and tomorrow .
is yeast smarter than us ?
forbin
Does knowing make you happier? Or will your last good days be filled with anguish. _________________ HOLDING THE CENTER
Joined: May 26, 2008 Posts: 1157 Location: Chicago, IL
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: I see dead people.
forbin wrote:
These people we so dispise are just trying their best to get along...
I don't despise them at all. I look at them with a heavy powerless feeling in my heart. I feel like helping them, and at the same time there's little or nothing I can do, or that can be done.
Joined: Aug 03, 2007 Posts: 4401 Location: Boston Suburbs
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: I see dead people.
vetusfirma wrote:
Does knowing make you happier? Or will your last good days be filled with anguish.
I think we operate under the delusion that knowing makes us happier, smarter, better, but our last good days wind up filled with anguish. Ignorance is bliss. _________________ As long as I am around, there are no worries we have reached "Peak Words"
Joined: May 02, 2005 Posts: 3528 Location: Oh really?
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: I see dead people.
VMarcHart wrote:
For the last few weeks I've been working nex to a cute suburban mall. You know, the standard AMC theaters, marry-go-around, food court, JC Penny's, etc, type of mall.
I go there for lunch. I had a smoothie today.
I see dead people. 20-something year old couples, with 1-2 small children, 1-2 toddlers, driving SUVs or Mini Vans, buying toys, eating pizza at Sbarro's, all while crude oil and gasoline just hit another record high, mortgage crisis, credit card crisis, inflation, unemployment, war, food shortage, the works. There is no way these folks will live or survive long.
I see dead people. Do you?
Focus on tomorrow through your personal planning efforts, focus on now while cruising around.
Even though that mall is a broken system waiting to stop, and the people walking around in there aren't aware, it doesn't mean that those particular individuals are going to break with the system. So if you see them smiling today, smile with them. _________________ "It's still all about energy!"
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: I see dead people.
VMarcHart wrote:
forbin wrote:
These people we so dispise are just trying their best to get along...
I don't despise them at all. I look at them with a heavy powerless feeling in my heart. I feel like helping them, and at the same time there's little or nothing I can do, or that can be done.
heavy poweless feeling - is how I feel
those of us , ahead of the game , on boards like this , see the issue
many think nothing can be done
many think we can do something and should be doing something and WTF why our leaders are so , well , ignorant/stupid/ignoring the situation .
it will never be the same again but is doesnt't have to be this way!
so why don't they "get it" ? we can do lots now , but is has to be now, not tomorrow , nor the next day
today
Forbin
PS: don't get depressed , do your bit , each of us .
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