Homesteads - Only for the Rich

duke

We really dislike...tornadoes, violent storms, hurricanes, earthquakes, flooding, mudslides, seasonal fires, (things that just wipe off the face of the earth all you have built), humidity (no A/C after a collapse), poison snakes, poison spiders, cockroaches, blizzards, long hot summers, no/little water, high winds, real deep snow, flat land, crowds and other stuff... thus we live in North Idaho:) Smile

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joelcolorado · Intermediate Crude Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 654

FOREST FIRES? Illness, car wrecks, accidents, lightning, rockslides, ....yu cant keep your own life. Only GOD can do that.

PonyBoy78

I'm looking for a modest plot of land, maybe 10 or 20 acres. But most of what I find online are listings of land that are much, much larger - and with sellers who are not willing to subdivide. Either that, or 1-acre lots.

Very frustrating. I can't afford 200 frickin' acres! Mad

duke

Forest fiers are raging in Ca, Az, Co, NM, Nv and the southeast...not here. It rained 3/4 of an inch last night. Sure we can get some forest fires later on but we are not in the national news like other locations...year after year after year...

Thus my point made. Why elect to live in areas tha have a bad track record? To my last understanding in life, illness, car wrecks, disease and other such things happen across the board. North Idaho has no more or no less per population....but proabaly a lot less mental illness and stress related problems due to over crowding, traffic and the worry of being wiped off the face of the earth.

Fire and country living is always a concern to the wise and prudent. Locations can take help longer to get there...if ever.

Planning on no help being around someday we have built in fire protection sprinklers on the roof tops, 8k water reserves, two wells, two delivery systems, case of barricade fire gel, 1 1/2 " fire hose center located, 450,000 gallon pond with two dry hydrants, 4 chains saws ready to go 24/7, multiple gensets to back up the entire ranch, under ground power networking, smoke masks and plenty of beer to put out hot spots (after drinking the beer first).

As folks who believe in prepping that is what we have done to protect ourselves.... I am interested in what preparations you have done to stand and fight for your place rather then evacutate?

No problem with evacuating if that is the choice you have made...

duke

Hi Ponyboy.

How about you share what is the max price you can afford. Either in total or per acre including how many acres? Remember to keep enough to develop water, roads, power, septic, building and so much more.... Hoping of course that the land you buy already has an access road on the edge of it, power on the boundary and other needed things nearby.

Perhaps somone aware of your needs can help you if they knew more about your real life abilities to pay for it all?

Ludi

PonyBoy78

duke

Sorry we reside in Idaho. 2,500-5,000 an acre will place you out in the sticks around here. Good luck!!

Heineken

Idaho is a very strange state to buy land in. Despite the size and emptiness of the place, there's little for sale and it's terribly expensive.

A mystery state. Probably a great place to be.
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duke

I have (for sale) an extra two bedroom/two bath home with a large custom shop in the ountry on 5 acres...south facing. So there is still stuff for sale up here:) Smile

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JPL

With respect I would like to re-iterate the OP's comment that there is no land affordable in the UK for the self-supporter unless they go the outermost fringes.

Some of which are very bleak indeed.

Go figure...

JP
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duke

Out west??? That is a real big area....

Our only view is from our neck of the woods. Northern Idaho. Up here it is not drying out and blowin away... It never get a blizzard and only the field grass dries up in late summer. Great place and a a result now that the rest of the world has found it...the prices have climbed....

Yes it is more expensive than some remote locations which no one plows out, or fixes the rutted roads...but you simply get what you pay for. Such is life:)

We are up against State/National Forests (very common up here). Today we begin stacking another years firewood and prepping the ranch to take care of us, should times change to where even leaving here would be risky at best.

Most good land has been bought up long ago.... most of that has been settled...sort of like the histroy of the world. Our section dates back to the 1800's and has had many a person trying to live on it since (County Records). With major modern advancements it is now a very nice place. I always am digging up real old pieces of equipment and tools from past folks that tried to make it out here in the woods/country. Some died and are buried here...most resold in a couple years. Those times are past (for most Americans). Times and equipment have changed...due to the need for change to live better. But it all costs money as someone had to build it.

What land is left has been picked over and until some huge spread breaks up those are the choices like it or not. Regardless living in the country is not a poor man's life out here. It takes work/money equipment to prepare to survive if the infrastructure of this nation crumbles apart someday.

Now of course from our point of view that is.... as we have no intention to live in a plank shack, saw fire wood with a misery whip, smoke all our meats (if any), use pine cones after sitting over a log, duct taping our old shoes and freezing in the winters...

I do read about some folks that "had" to do that in the real old days before so much was learned and invented. I for one do not long to go back in time and relive that lifestyle....

HEADER_RACK · Heavy Crude Joined: Feb 15, 2007 Posts: 435

I was debt free when I found out about PO and I didn't want to go into debt on buying a homestead. Instead I found and joined a hunting lease. I now have access to 1600 acres of beautiful pine forest year round.
There is a cabin on the lease with about 20 cleared acres of grass it also has pond and two streams. The cabin already has it's own water well also. It is located about 15 miles outside of a very small town and sits about a mile off the road behind a very thick tree line.
I'm on the lease with eight other hunters (none are PO aware) and only 2 of us live in the same state as the lease. The land is owned by a paper mill company and their nearest paper mill is about 2 hours away. There is talk that next year they plan on closing that particular mill which will put the next mill even further away. Last year the paper mill locked our lease in for the next 10 years. We have deer, turkey,squirels,rabbits and a few wild hogs. All of this for $500 a year.
While I can't grow a garden or put up a chicken coup at the camp (well I'm sure I could but then that shows my hand to the others on the lease and I can't have that ) Everything I need to start those projects is kept in a store room on the outskirts of that little town along with most of my other provisions.
When TSHTF thats my bug-out-place. With the land being owned by a corporation where the main headquarters are located several states away. I don't believe anyone is going to be coming to boot me off and with the other hunters on the lease living so far away I don't see them coming around either and besides I'm on the lease I will have a legal right to be there.
There is an old man that owns 160 acres right behind our camp where he keeps about 20 head of cattle to open graze. He comes out about every other weekend to check on them. He also lives about an hour away. I think after TSHTF some of those cows might come up missing if he is even able to get out there to check up on them.
So I might not have a homestead but I do have a nice place to make one. I go out there alot and prep it as much as possible without the others thinking I'm a loon.
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