I think this is the beginnings of an economy based on perpetual growth and fossil fuel energy running headlong into geological energy constraints. Basically I see an undulatory downward path for the rest of my life. From here out, I think any rallies in our economic condition are going to be met with spiking commodity prices that knock us right back down.
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:50 am Post subject: Re: Massive Suburban Garden Harvest this weekend!!!!
eastbay wrote:
Nice crop. Can you expand it? You seem to have a nice knack for high production on small area.
Well this is a succession pattern. The potatoes and onions are succeeded immediately after harvest by turnips surrounded by pole beans. Basically, I expect to get another 50 lbs of beans/turnips out of that single 16 sq ft garden bed before the end of the year.
My garden beds are between 16 to 20 sq ft each. I have 6 of them so far. Using intensive gardening techniques, I have been able to obtain roughly 100-120 lbs of produce per bed per year on a sustainable basis. Of course, it also meant putting back into each bed roughly 60 to 80 lbs of compost and green manure per annum. _________________ http://backtowilderness.blogspot.com http://grown-up-permaculture.com
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:27 am Post subject: Re: Massive Suburban Garden Harvest this weekend!!!!
xerces wrote:
Well this is a succession pattern. The potatoes and onions are succeeded immediately after harvest by turnips surrounded by pole beans. Basically, I expect to get another 50 lbs of beans/turnips out of that single 16 sq ft garden bed before the end of the year.
My garden beds are between 16 to 20 sq ft each. I have 6 of them so far. Using intensive gardening techniques, I have been able to obtain roughly 100-120 lbs of produce per bed per year on a sustainable basis. Of course, it also meant putting back into each bed roughly 60 to 80 lbs of compost and green manure per annum.
Sounds like you've got some editing to do with that workbook I sent you!
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:31 am Post subject: Re: Massive Suburban Garden Harvest this weekend!!!!
purdum wrote:
http:\\my.core.com\~purdum3790, the link "Garden Contribution to Dietary Requirements" which anyone is free to copy.
purdum, it looks as if the page with your spreadsheet on it is missing. _________________ "If a path to the better there be, it begins with a full look at the worst." — Thomas Hardy
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:33 am Post subject: Re: Massive Suburban Garden Harvest this weekend!!!!
purdum wrote:
I have a similar spreadsheet posted at http:\\my.core.com\~purdum3790, the link "Garden Contribution to Dietary Requirements" which anyone is free to copy. About the only difference with mine is I've tried to account for what is discarded when preparing a vegetable - i.e., you may have a 5 pound butternut squash from the garden, but maybe only 2 pounds of it ends up in the oven and that's the number used to figure calories.
Excellent point, and in my "complex" Garden workbook, for example, the weight of peaches I grew this year was entered as the net weight, after pitting, cutting, and/or skinning--what I actually ate--but the store price I entered was what I would have paid at the grocery store, which includes the pit, etc. One can make pretty detailed notes using a spreadsheet, i.e., what works, what doesn't, etc., how one calculates the calories depending on how the produce is processed, cooked or not, etc.
Those fine points are why I included references, esp. the USDA reference which gives those details.
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Massive Suburban Garden Harvest this weekend!!!!
pstarr and PO thanks so much for the USDA reference. We'll be using it constantly. And the spreadsheet... thanks for emailing it to us. EB _________________ Got Dharma?
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: Massive Suburban Garden Harvest this weekend!!!!
pedalling_faster wrote:
any idea on the smallest tank you could put a small colony of tilapia, sunfish, whatever they're called, and still have them be happy & breed ?
There's an article on the web somewhere (I think it's in Mother Earth News) about a guy who raises fish in a barrel. _________________ Conservation is conservative
It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the ones most responsive to change. -- Charles Darwin
I used 1 garden bed and two containers, so about 26 sq ft under intensive cultivation yielded 52lbs of potatoes.
My entire garden this year is around 100 sq ft.
props, dood...major props!
care to share any photos of your set-up? also, any information about what exposure you're getting?
we have about 100 sq feet to work with, too at our condo. We happen to get THE best light of any unit there, owing to where the sun is relative to our unit, the placement of trees, etc. so I feel we owe a duty to good fortune to maximize our production.
We kicked bootie in tomatoes last year; this year prbly not bcs of a long cool snap, but will prbly get other things instead.
I used 1 garden bed and two containers, so about 26 sq ft under intensive cultivation yielded 52lbs of potatoes.
My entire garden this year is around 100 sq ft.
props, dood...major props!
care to share any photos of your set-up? also, any information about what exposure you're getting?
we have about 100 sq feet to work with, too at our condo. We happen to get THE best light of any unit there, owing to where the sun is relative to our unit, the placement of trees, etc. so I feel we owe a duty to good fortune to maximize our production.
We kicked bootie in tomatoes last year; this year prbly not bcs of a long cool snap, but will prbly get other things instead.
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject:
xerces wrote:
zeke wrote:
xerces wrote:
I used 1 garden bed and two containers, so about 26 sq ft under intensive cultivation yielded 52lbs of potatoes.
My entire garden this year is around 100 sq ft.
props, dood...major props!
care to share any photos of your set-up? also, any information about what exposure you're getting?
we have about 100 sq feet to work with, too at our condo. We happen to get THE best light of any unit there, owing to where the sun is relative to our unit, the placement of trees, etc. so I feel we owe a duty to good fortune to maximize our production.
We kicked bootie in tomatoes last year; this year prbly not bcs of a long cool snap, but will prbly get other things instead.
Most impressive is you're doing this in the relatively cooler climate in NY (or is it PA, the blog reads both). It's encouraging to others when they see what's possible! _________________ Got Dharma?
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