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Itsallcomindown
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 Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:06 pm Post subject: British students given detention for not praying to allah |
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| I just heard about this on the news. I really don't know what to say other than this is completely ridiculous. Has anyone heard anything about it? And if so, what are your thoughts? How do you let your country come to this? |
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socrates1fan
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: British students given detention for not praying to alla |
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startswithearthquakes
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: British students given detention for not praying to alla |
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A jubaba jabab booo bulan nubia allah bakbar dobie!!!
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Denny
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: British students given detention for not praying to alla |
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| If they are in a Muslim religious school, that is appropriate. I'd expect the same for kids in a Christian school who refused or neglected their prayer. I once received corporal punishment for laughing during prayer at school, a public school at that. I was just age 7. Didn't do me any harm, it was a good thing to straighten me out. |
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neocone
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: British students given detention for not praying to alla |
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| In a way "Dune" by Frank Herbert is mainly based on Islam and the Jih'ad as fight for right and the oppressed. And of course... the spice as Oil... Who has the Oil Map (large) |
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mos6507
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:16 am Post subject: Re: British students given detention for not praying to alla |
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Spice Wars
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Quinny
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:11 am Post subject: Re: British students given detention for not praying to alla |
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Were they asked to write a treatise on how to survive peak oil?
If not what's this got to do with this forum? |
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Drake
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:37 am Post subject: Re: British students given detention for not praying to alla |
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SILENTTODD
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:45 am Post subject: Re: British students given detention for not praying to alla |
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I suspect this is in the realm of an Urban Legend even in the UK. But at least I’m thankful in America the Supreme Court freed us from all enforcement of local superstitions like these 45 years ago in 1963!
P.S. Islam and all religions are ignorant suspicions!
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seldom_seen
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:08 am Post subject: Re: British students given detention for not praying to alla |
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You reap what you sow, and half the story has never been told...
The fall of England to islam will be silent and insidious. This story gives me the willies!
Farewell and goodnight England. |
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RonMN
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:50 am Post subject: Re: British students given detention for not praying to alla |
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Denny Wrote: If they are in a Muslim religious school, that is appropriate.
I went to catholic schools & nobody was ever "required" to pray... merely remain quiet out of respect for those who were praying.
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dorlomin
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:54 am Post subject: Re: British students given detention for not praying to alla |
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| seldom_seen wrote: | | You reap what you sow, and half the story has never been told... The fall of England to islam will be silent and insidious. This story gives me the willies! Farewell and goodnight England. |
Um I think you have been reading the Daily Mail too much if you think the UK is falling to "Islam". Its wackier than the 'reds under the beds' scare stories from the McCarthy years in the US. |
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wisconsin_cur
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:05 am Post subject: Re: British students given detention for not praying to alla |
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| dorlomin wrote: | | seldom_seen wrote: | | You reap what you sow, and half the story has never been told. The fall of England to islam will be silent and insidious. This story gives me the willies! Farewell and goodnight England. |
Um I think you have been reading the Daily Mail too much if you think the UK is falling to "Islam". Its wackier than the 'reds under the beds' scare stories from the McCarthy years in the US. |
How do you perceive the odds of escalating conflict between ethnic Anglos and the Islamic community within the UK over the next five years or so?
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dorlomin
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:23 am Post subject: Re: British students given detention for not praying to alla |
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| wisconsin_cur wrote: | | dorlomin wrote: | | seldom_seen wrote: | | You reap what you sow, and half the story has never been told. The fall of England to islam will be silent and insidious. This story gives me the willies! Farewell and goodnight England. |
Um I think you have been reading the Daily Mail too much if you think the UK is falling to "Islam". Its wackier than the 'reds under the beds' scare stories from the McCarthy years in the US. |
How do you perceive the odds of escalating conflict between ethnic Anglos and the Islamic community within the UK over the next five years or so? |
In the former mill towns in Lancashire and Yorkshire there is alot of latent tension. Large Pakistani groups were brought to those towns in the 60s and 70s to work in the mills but they all pretty much closed in the 80s. This wave of immigrants tended to all come from the same villiges and extended families so they are very cut off and insular. Here there will be more trouble. Most of them belonged to Sufi Islam, a very spiritual variant that was very old and very much a peasants religion. Most youths had sort of grown appart from Islam and were living increasingly British lives, but (thank you Saudi farking Arabia) now Wahabism is making inroads. Its kind of like the born agains in the States, people who were bad and refind themselves in there religion. This is a very austere, very literal interperation of Islam and for dissafected youths gives them a cultural identity.
There is alot of tension in those towns that run along racial and religious lines.
In the midlands I understand that the tensions tend to be strongest between the afro caribeans and the Muslims. There have been a couple of miniriots. If there is serious economic troubles then this will be the first key cultural fracture line in that area.
In the South East where there are problems it has a habbit of being Seikhs and Hindus not getting along with the Pakistanis or Bengalis. The white far right loving stocking up fear of Musilms and Islamophobia is deffinently on the rise, but I dont think the first problems will be between muslims and whites in the South of England.
For whites the real big bugbear amoung the working classes is East Europeans who have been resonsible for a big drop in wages for tradesmen. There is often alot of tension on the streets between them.
The big big riots in the future will almost certainly be mixed race with white working class and afro caribean youths in the low income parts of the London and other UK cities. Reruns of broadwater farm, Brixton and Toxteth riots as the economy turns ugly.
One big problem that will come from Islam will be the new born wahabists, whos theology tends to be pretty Fark up, as the economy sours they will whip up the usual scape goats of jews, muslim haters and the like amoung themselves and probibly try some DIY terrorism. But they possibly wont be the only groups, I can forsee a return to the 70s with Marxists terrorism returning as well and Anarchists and loads of far right hate crimes.
One addition I would not be suprised to see East Europeans and Africans getting involved in anti muslim violence when it all starts going pear shaped. |
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dorlomin
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: Re: British students given detention for not praying to alla |
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As for this story Ill add this. It looks like an overzelous teacher who perhaps should not be teacher religous education. Showing people how someone of a different religion prays is a bit different to making people immitate them. And that goes for any religion. I am totaly secular but will say immitating the act of prayer is rather disrespectful. But this teacher was bang out of order forcing these kids to pray at all.
But as a story its one for the local rag, not an national or international news outlet. |
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