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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record ($145.85) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

$136.10 look at it go.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record ($145.85) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Crude oil tumbles, collapses, falls off the cliff, is headed back to $50 by this time next year, goes out of fashion as a fuel of choice :

$135.82
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record ($145.85) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

$135.23

Here's the part where we do the $10 swings in the downward direction. Let's have some $50 oil predictions from the media, shall we?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record ($145.85) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

10%, 20%, 30% and larger temporary corrections will not be uncommon as we ratchet our way deep into triple digit oil prices. What we've seen in the past few days is a 6% correction so far. There may be quite a ways more to go, but it'll soon go back up.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record ($145.85) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

A small $30 correction I would guess. Then when everyone think we'll going back to "normal" prices again it will rise to $160 within a few months.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:53 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record ($145.85) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

kilik wrote:
A small $30 correction I would guess. Then when everyone think we'll going back to "normal" prices again it will rise to $160 within a few months.
That sounds like a bottom signal to me! Wink Be assured it won't take months!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:24 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record ($145.85) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

lowem wrote:
Here's the part where we do the $10 swings in the downward direction. Let's have some $50 oil predictions from the media, shall we?


I think I'll go buy an SUV to celebrate! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record ($145.85) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If this stays above the 40 day moving average there's nothing to worry about. If we go very far below $132.64 and close below it then look out below. We could see as a low something between $100-$115 if we go below the 40 dma over the next month or so.....

Oh and Lowem this gentleman thinks $60 easily sometime in the beginning of next year!!!:
Jul 07-- The Outlook for Inflation and the Likelihood of $60 Oil- Hussman Funds

I take it he doesn't believe there's a supply and demand problem? Smile


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record ($145.85) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

chuck6877 wrote:
I just edited this to add the 20 day moving average as seen in green. Smallpoxgirl you always mention this average and it was support throughout that last consolidation and may be support now before we run up to $150....


The 20dma broke as it has with most of the crude pullbacks. The support line on my chart is currently at $133.50. That's pretty close to your 40dma.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Another Record ($145.85) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

chuck6877 wrote:
Oh and Lowem this gentleman thinks $60 easily sometime in the beginning of next year!!!:
Jul 07-- The Outlook for Inflation and the Likelihood of $60 Oil- Hussman Funds

I take it he doesn't believe there's a supply and demand problem? Smile


Good. Let's have more of this kind of talk. $50 oil, $60 oil.
Let's have the Lynches and Yergins of the world do their stuff.

And then, blam!

The market likes to turn just as people are looking the other way.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Another Record ($145.85) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

smallpoxgirl wrote:
I think I'll go buy an SUV to celebrate! Rolling Eyes


Yeah, maybe I'll cancel my Civic Hybrid order and join the waiting list for a HondaJet instead!



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Another Record ($145.85) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Not to worry. After a major price run-up, oil price usually drops back down some. But then again shoots up and starts breaking new records soon after that. 3 steps forward, one step back. $150 oil by the end of next week. I laugh my a$$ off when I see cornucopians say this is all a price bubble that's about to pop. I don't understand how some people can stay in denial with so much evidence to the contrary. Oh well.

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Anyone see a trend in the oil price chart below? Notice how there always a price drop before the next record-breaking rally? Each recent rally has increased oil prices by about $10 from each previous record. Next price rally should max out at perhaps $155 and then fall some again. And then after that, $165. Etc, Etc. Seems that price rallies last about 4 weeks on average lately. So perhaps we can expect about an $10 oil price increase per month average from now on. This would theoretically put the price of oil at about $200 by December 2008 if prices continue following this current trend. By the way, oil is already up a dollar again to about $137.



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:31 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record ($145.85) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Welcome back to $138 oil.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:41 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record ($145.85) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

... oops, back to $137 again. Quite a ride today.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record ($145.85) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

From the "Rumors" section of Tickerforum:

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"Rumors from Dubai regarding Lehman's Oil trades...using fed open window funds to speculate on oil (long)...on pre-knowledge regarding Israel making threats and practice bombing runs toward Iran.

Arabs got wind of this and shorted it hard over the 4th weekend causing Lehman to get caught "holding long" over the weekend and getting massive margin calls. Fed closed the window to Lehman and now banks pulling lines, deep pockets pulling funds and fellow IBs refusing to do business.

After Iran got wind of all this they agreed to discuss EU proposals in middle of 4th weekend which caused oil to drop hard Monday.

Now AP, trying to prop oil, seems to be making up news as they good along about Iran having war games (most say it is just a small group doing routine activity) and about Iran stating that they refuse to stop enrichment (Rumor that Iran actually ready to talk to EU at a very near date)."

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If there is any truth in this, it would explain a lot of things, including the drop in oil prices.
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