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skiptamali Tar Sands


Joined: May 09, 2008 Posts: 62
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: California to Mandate 'Global Warming Score' on Windshields |
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In a recent article, I learned that the state of California will begin requiring 'global warming score' stickers on your car's windshield.
Not simply a measurement of smog emissions or mpg, this is a calculation using those numbers to determine, on a scale of 1-10, the vehicle's impact on global warming.
Is this going to make a difference to consumers and auto owners? Isn't it always the bottom line (the wallet) that hits consumers, ie the price of fuel right now? Are Californians going to be seen as outlandish in adding this sticker? Will mandating it raise awareness of our personal contribution to climate change via our autos?
Why do you gals and guys think? |
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heroineworshipper Intermediate Crude


Joined: Jul 14, 2006 Posts: 759 Location: Calif*
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: California to Mandate 'Global Warming Score' on Windshie |
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Consumers care about total operating cost. The other stuff is election material. Can't wait for the road kill sticker. 1-10 based on the number of animals it kills. Obviously peak oilers want the highest kill score for food purposes. _________________ People first, then things, then dollars.
There will be enslavement, cannibalism, & zombie invasions. |
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allenwrench Intermediate Crude


Joined: Apr 23, 2008 Posts: 893
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:47 am Post subject: Re: California to Mandate 'Global Warming Score' on Windshie |
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Global warming may be good for us. We wont have much fuel to heat our homes, so at least we wont freeze to death as much in a warmer climate.
Have you ever thought about how much your homes are dependent on natural gas for cooking, heating and hot water? Well, we will run out of natural gas in the next few decades, just after have we depleted our crude supplies.
http://www.amazon.com/High-Noon-Natural-Gas-Energy/dp/1931498539
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smallpoxgirl Moderator


Joined: Nov 08, 2004 Posts: 6812
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:52 am Post subject: Re: California to Mandate 'Global Warming Score' on Windshie |
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So does that mean my coal fired pickup idea is out? _________________ "We were standing on the edges
Of a thousand burning bridges
Sifting through the ashes every day
What we thought would never end
Now is nothing more than a memory
The way things were before
I lost my way" - OCMS |
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Ludi NeoMaster


Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 13876 Location: naive idiot fantasy world
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: California to Mandate 'Global Warming Score' on Windshie |
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Looks like another stupid waste of tax dollars to me. _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow." - jboogy |
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burtonridr Intermediate Crude


Joined: Aug 03, 2007 Posts: 763
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: California to Mandate 'Global Warming Score' on Windshie |
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| Ludi wrote: | | Looks like another stupid waste of tax dollars to me. |
+1
If the people gave a damn in the first place they would research before buying anyway. _________________ Tired of high gas prices? Then stop driving to work, duh..... Learn to Work from home
Peak Oil Blog = http://getroasted.wordpress.com |
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gnm Expert


Joined: Jul 08, 2004 Posts: 2770 Location: plundering eco-villages
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: California to Mandate 'Global Warming Score' on Windshie |
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I suspect its about revenue. First get the stickers on then add a surcharge for parking, toll roads, etc based on your GW number...
-G _________________ I Have and will continue to vote against ANY politician who supports the various bailouts. Curse you for selling out our future for status quo now! |
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burtonridr Intermediate Crude


Joined: Aug 03, 2007 Posts: 763
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: California to Mandate 'Global Warming Score' on Windshie |
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| gnm wrote: | I suspect its about revenue. First get the stickers on then add a surcharge for parking, toll roads, etc based on your GW number...
-G |
I wouldnt doubt it....  _________________ Tired of high gas prices? Then stop driving to work, duh..... Learn to Work from home
Peak Oil Blog = http://getroasted.wordpress.com |
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Jack Dark Lord


Joined: Aug 11, 2004 Posts: 5132
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: California to shame the owners of gas-guzzlers |
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| Hogan wrote: | | Will your car be the target of vandalism based on your license plate's eco rating? |
Of course it will. _________________ Dieoff. Fun to watch. Better with hot buttered popcorn!  |
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mgibbons19 Light Sweet Crude

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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: California to shame the owners of gas-guzzlers |
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| Wouldn't it be great for the environment if we ditch all the old guzzlers we have and buy new prii? |
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heroineworshipper Intermediate Crude


Joined: Jul 14, 2006 Posts: 759 Location: Calif*
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: California to shame the owners of gas-guzzlers |
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If every fanboy bought a Prius right now, the world supply of iron would be exhaused & China would have to be nuked to destroy all the toxic manufacturing waste.
FYI, stickers for low emission vehicles have been around since emissions were the big thing. Now that global warming is big, it's probably a sticker for a low global warming vehicle. _________________ People first, then things, then dollars.
There will be enslavement, cannibalism, & zombie invasions. |
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Plantagenet Expert


Joined: Apr 09, 2007 Posts: 6612 Location: Alaska (its much bigger than Texas).
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: California to shame the owners of gas-guzzlers |
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All you have to do is buy a decal saying you've bought carbon offsets, just like Al Gore.
If a rich environmentalists like Al Gore can fly around in a private jet and claim he isn't hurting the environment because he buys carbon offsets, then the "little guy" should be able to drive around in a SUV and not hurt the environment if he buys carbon offsets......  |
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coyote News Editor


Joined: Oct 23, 2005 Posts: 1883 Location: East of Eden
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: California to shame the owners of gas-guzzlers |
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| Jack wrote: | | Hogan wrote: | | Will your car be the target of vandalism based on your license plate's eco rating? |
Of course it will. |
Ah, but going in which direction? I'm at the business end of a hell of a lot more public resentment since I got my Prius. When I had the pickup truck, no one gave a damn. So who's going to get the vandalism? _________________ "If a path to the better there be, it begins with a full look at the worst." — Thomas Hardy |
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TWilliam Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Nov 28, 2004 Posts: 1918
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: California to shame the owners of gas-guzzlers |
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Interesting. I had brought up precisely this notion at a local P.O. group meeting last Fall, namely the idea of using public shame, ridicule and scorn as a way to start motivating cultural change (I even used the example of how this type of peer pressure was used to discourage smoking in public places). It was basically blown off because it wasn't a 'positive, uplifting' approach...
One idea I had was an advertising campaign that would feature three hot looking women strolling down the street, some guy cruising by in his big, shiny pickup truck, and having one of the ladies make some comment to the other two along the lines of, "Check him out", to which one of the others would respond, "You know what they say about men with big trucks", with the third one saying "Yea! We know what he's compensating for!", at which point they all bust out in uncontrollable giggling. I suspect numerous variations on the theme could be formulated.
Another similar campaign could focus on kids having friends deriding them for being shuttled everywhere by their parents, how 'uncool' it was and such... _________________ "It means buckle your seatbelt, Dorothy, because Kansas? Is goin' bye-bye... " |
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vetusfirma Heavy Crude

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Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 219 Location: West KC
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: California to shame the owners of gas-guzzlers |
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| coyote wrote: | | Jack wrote: | | Hogan wrote: | | Will your car be the target of vandalism based on your license plate's eco rating? |
Of course it will. |
Ah, but going in which direction? I'm at the business end of a hell of a lot more public resentment since I got my Prius. When I had the pickup truck, no one gave a damn. So who's going to get the vandalism? |
It doesn't matter what direction, just bring on the vandals. As we all know, to many people is the real problem. We can just make it open season on Vandals. That will help solve the problem. Eco stickers won't, but a vandal bounty, of say one gallon of gas for each pair of ears, will thin 'em out quick. _________________ HOLDING THE CENTER |
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