Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: Anyone grow or store Quinoa?
Supposed to be much better for you (much higher in protein & EFA's) than rice & tastes a little better also (though still bland as all grains are). Also you only need to cook it for 10-15 minutes as opposed to brown rice where you need to cook it for up to an hour.
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone grow or store Quinoa?
Narz wrote:
Supposed to be much better for you (much higher in protein & EFA's) than rice & tastes a little better also (though still bland as all grains are). Also you only need to cook it for 10-15 minutes as opposed to brown rice where you need to cook it for up to an hour.
I could live off the stuff (plus maybe some salt & honey) if I had too.
Its normally grown in South America and imported. You would be pioneering.
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This annual species is in the goosefoot family and is related to the weed, common lambsquarters (Chenopodium album L.), canahua (C. pallidicaule Aellen), and wormseed (C. ambrosiodes L. anthelminticum). Possible hybrids between quinoa and common lambsquarters have been observed in Colorado. Quinoa is also in the same botanical family as sugarbeet, table beet, and spinach, and it is susceptible to many of the same insect and disease problems as these crops. Quinoa is sometimes referred to as a "pseudocereal" because it is a broadleaf non-legume that is grown for grain unlike most cereal grains which are grassy plants. It is similar in this respect to the pseudocereals buckwheat and amaranth.
Lambsquarter/Quinoa would make a great candidate, I would agree. LQ is all over where I live.
But this process, of growing and harvesting Quinoa, is based (right now, as far as I know) non-mechanical means. Here is your problem: the USA's farms cannot afford labor. No machines exist to do the work- existing acreage is planted in other established cash crops. Who takes the risk? The farmers?
The GMO companies are putting research money into increasing yields in other kinds of plants. The common food crops.
But the cultivation of the plant seems inevitable. It would be important to see something developed. But I don't think you'll see it commercially in the US, even with unusual circumstances, for 20 years or more.
Small farms are probably trying it. Extension in Colorado might even send you seeds if you ask.
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:46 am Post subject: Re: Anyone grow or store Quinoa?
I tried to grow grain Amaranth once and I didn't get the right time to harvest the grains. Quinoa grains are even smaller. However you can use the leaves as well, but you're after the grains...
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:37 am Post subject: Re: Anyone grow or store Quinoa?
I planted a garden bed half quinoa and half amaranth. The amaranth seems to be coming along well but the quinoa is doing nothing. As far as I can tell not a single quinoa plant came up. It's also the second attempt for both this season. The 1st was probably too early, very cold and damp May, as neither the amaranth or the quinoa came up.
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone grow or store Quinoa?
jbrown wrote:
I planted a garden bed half quinoa and half amaranth. The amaranth seems to be coming along well but the quinoa is doing nothing. As far as I can tell not a single quinoa plant came up. It's also the second attempt for both this season. The 1st was probably too early, very cold and damp May, as neither the amaranth or the quinoa came up.
What seeds were you using for the Quinoa or did you try and germinate store-bought grain?
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone grow or store Quinoa?
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Not only did the weeds grow much larger in hotter, CO2-enriched plots — a weed called lambs-quarters, or Chenopodium album, grew to an impressive 6 to 8 feet on the farm but to a frightening 10 to 12 feet in the city — but the urban, futuristic weeds also produced more pollen. Even more alarming was the way that the increased heat and CO2 accelerated and perverted the succession of species within the plots. Typically, a cleared area in the Eastern United States, if left to itself, returns to native woodland. This process varies with the site and circumstances, but in its archetypical form fast-growing annual weeds cover the soil first, playing the role of what ecologists classify as “pioneer plants.” These gradually give way to longer-lived perennial weeds, which are in turn replaced by shrubs and trees.
Chenopodium/Quinoa cross-hybrid in concert with higher CO2 levels would theoretically produce a more proteinaceous seed.
Of course you'd have to do your harvesting wearing a respirator.
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone grow or store Quinoa?
I am growing the variety "Faro" from seeds of change. the flowerheads are forming well and there is some trouble with aphids on most things this year. I will try to keep you posted. _________________ Remember every mighty oak tree started with some nut who stood their ground.
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone grow or store Quinoa?
How do you find out the harvest time of Amaranth? And how do you harvest/dry/thresh the seed?
Quinoa is from the same family Chenopodium , but maybe it needs heights to grow well?
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